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Jan 30, 2014 08:37 |  #2971

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Sweet. So, what team are you rooting for? :lol:

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Jan 30, 2014 08:47 as a reply to  @ Peter2516's post |  #2972

I ordered my lens from B&H on January 10th. Just got off the phone with B&H. The next shipment from Tamron won't arrive until Feb 5th. They don't think that shipment will be enough to fill my order. The next shipment after that isn't expected until late February. Anyone have better luck with another distributor. Need this lens (or something else) in the next two weeks for a shoot I have coming up. Thanks




  
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Jan 30, 2014 08:48 |  #2973

Interesting review

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Jan 30, 2014 11:32 |  #2974

Very interesting, indeed.

I think that it is fair to conclude that those who are making statements about how this lens "won't" AF for BIF, or "can't" do this or that, or are a "complete fail" in any regard, must realize that they are only talking about their copy of the lens, used in their hands. There are enough examples now, on a wide range of bodies and under a wide range of conditions, to safely say that this lens is not generally handicapped in these ways. There may be bad copies, but we have seen what can be done with this lens. I am amazed, given this evidence, that anyone would just give up on it, rather than returning a problem lens for another copy.

I just hope that they are generally available by April, when I will want to have this for Prairie Chickens and migration.


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Jan 30, 2014 11:37 |  #2975

will the price go up or stay the same after these 'pre-order" prices?


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Jan 30, 2014 12:18 |  #2976

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will the price go up or stay the same after these 'pre-order" prices?

Prices normally go down. You pay a premium to be the first group to own the lens.


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Jan 30, 2014 12:43 |  #2977

Sounds pretty cool to me :)




  
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Jan 30, 2014 13:11 |  #2978

Tc202 wrote in post #16650208 (external link)
Prices normally go down. You pay a premium to be the first group to own the lens.

Yeah, normally. But I have a hard time believing this one will drop anytime soon. $1,065 seems crazy low for a 150-600 range lens, with stabilization, no less.


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Jan 30, 2014 13:17 |  #2979

pknight wrote in post #16650070 (external link)
Very interesting, indeed.
I think that it is fair to conclude that those who are making statements about how this lens "won't" AF for BIF, or "can't" do this or that, or are a "complete fail" in any regard, must realize that they are only talking about their copy of the lens, used in their hands.

I believe realistically THIS IS a great lens, BUT Tamron has brought it to the edge of the cliff as far as auto focus is concerned. Canon states their cameras will have problems auto focusing with any lens rated above f5.6. This lens is there and a little above.

In the reviews I have read I have noted the majority of the complaints about focusing come from users of Crop Sensor Cameras - those that do not handle low light well. The FF models which handle low light a bit better still fair extremely well with this lens. The only complaints I have seen generally concern moving targets. I can't help but suspect the limit has been reached, This lens is pushing the limit of most cameras.

But then, Oh how we can enjoy that limit. I own a Canon 7D and expect when I decide to purchase this lens (and I likely will) the AF for BIF will give me an issue, but as we have seen anything else is crystal - only moving targets seem to have a problem. The limit is reached, but I know most of us will love having gotten there. I can deal with a few BIF issues if I am getting the Image Quality I am seeing on less active targets.


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Jan 30, 2014 13:24 as a reply to  @ LV Moose's post |  #2980

Maybe they discounted the price because they knew AI Servo doesn't work with the lens. Where is Rob Galbraith these days? He was the king of AI Servo testing during the 1d3 debacle.

So does anyone have a copy of the lens that will allow you to hold down the focus button and scan around a scene constantly changing focus, or keep a slow moving car in focus coming towards you? There are a lot of people sending their lenses back so it would be nice to hear some good reports about tracking, and not even necessarily at 600mm either since that's more challenging. And I do know the bump focus technique which I use sometimes with my 100-400 but it's only necessary in really tough conditions, normally just holding down focus works.




  
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Jan 30, 2014 13:34 |  #2981

1stLight wrote in post #16650378 (external link)
Maybe they discounted the price because they knew AI Servo doesn't work with the lens. Where is Rob Galbraith these days? He was the king of AI Servo testing during the 1d3 debacle.

So does anyone have a copy of the lens that will allow you to hold down the focus button and scan around a scene constantly changing focus, or keep a slow moving car in focus coming towards you? There are a lot of people sending their lenses back so it would be nice to hear some good reports about tracking, and not even necessarily at 600mm either since that's more challenging. And I do know the bump focus technique which I use sometimes with my 100-400 but it's only necessary in really tough conditions, normally just holding down focus works.

I have no problem doing that. Even in low light. I loose focus now and then, but as ive said before, not a deal breaker for me. Im doing Back camera focus with AI-servo. Tried it out for an hour the other day, works flawless.

You got to compare this lens at 400mm if you're compairing it against 100-400. Its a huge difference in field of view form 400 to 600. Wouldnt really be fair to be honest. 400mm is f5.6 as well, should be better in low light.


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Jan 30, 2014 13:37 |  #2982

1stLight wrote in post #16650378 (external link)
Maybe they discounted the price because they knew AI Servo doesn't work with the lens. Where is Rob Galbraith these days? He was the king of AI Servo testing during the 1d3 debacle.

So does anyone have a copy of the lens that will allow you to hold down the focus button and scan around a scene constantly changing focus, or keep a slow moving car in focus coming towards you? There are a lot of people sending their lenses back so it would be nice to hear some good reports about tracking, and not even necessarily at 600mm either since that's more challenging. And I do know the bump focus technique which I use sometimes with my 100-400 but it's only necessary in really tough conditions, normally just holding down focus works.

Of course there are people. This lens does track, how well, it's a matter of keeper rate. I shot about a hundred BIF images with it and it does track while shooting a burst in AI servo. However, it is probably not as good as a 400 5.6L, which makes sense.
I sent mine back mainly because I suspected the VC had issues. It did stabilize properly every time, but engaging and disengaging was odd sometimes compared to the probably 10 other lenses I've owned with stabilization (2 of them Tamrons).

There has been a discussion about AF partly because there are some people here who shoot with some great glass here and share their opinion on a nice budget Tamron lens which may not perform as well as a much more expensive lens. There are also people who are not 100% satisfied since there seem to be some software bugs that prevent the lens from working properly in certain situations (e.g. zone or 19 point AF mode on 7D and 70D). Hence, some of us are sending the Tamron back. And there also others who expected more and did not get it. There are all kinds of reasons why an individual may decide to send his/her lens back.

As for tracking, I mean if I was able to get this shot in AI Servo, with a 6D which some people claim can't even track anything (they're wrong though), then the lens does work :) Anybody who is familiar with kingfishers knows this is not that easy, especially at 600mm... :) Not that it's an award winning shot, I was just testing the lens on the first day. (this is about 70% crop)

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Jan 30, 2014 13:37 |  #2983

1stLight wrote in post #16650378 (external link)
Maybe they discounted the price because they knew AI Servo doesn't work with the lens.

It doesn't? It does on my 60D. I've not changed the AF mode from AI Servo since I got the lens.

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Jan 30, 2014 13:42 |  #2984

DAA wrote in post #16650415 (external link)
It doesn't? It does on my 60D. I've not changed the AF mode from AI Servo since I got the lens.

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Agreed mine has no issues on my 7D




  
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Jan 30, 2014 13:42 |  #2985

gabebalazs wrote in post #16650413 (external link)
I sent mine back mainly because I suspected the VC had issues.

From your earlier descriptions and now having used my copy a bit, I believe your VC really was jacked. On mine, it's just a tad bit more violent of a "jump" than my Sigma 150-500 when it engages, but after initial enagement, the VC is actually quieter, smoother and less noticeable (in any negative way) overall than the OS on my Sigma.

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