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Has any hobbyist regretted buying a “big white”?

 
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Feb 04, 2014 12:05 |  #31

Wise words from Nick 3434, buy one now while you can!
I got my 500 before kids because I know full well that when our son is born in a couple of months, I aint spending nothing on camera gear!


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Feb 04, 2014 12:08 |  #32

Get your 300mm they are a nice lens, but remember in time you may want even bigger, it's that ever ending desire for more reach. The 300L is the only L lens I've ever sold, only reason was to help fund the 600 L II.


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Feb 04, 2014 12:10 |  #33

gnome chompski wrote in post #16662975 (external link)
Thats quite an investment for a hobbyist. Not trying to talk you out of it (despite what it seems, lol), just providing a different perspective. A 300/2.8 for occasional zoo trips and backyard birds does not seem like its worth it to me. That is a lens that NatGeo photogs use on assignment, in the field for months on end. Be realistic, maybe consider the Sigma 120-300 2.8 sport?

tl;dr: thats a lot of lens and a lot of money for a hobbyist. There more reasonable alternatives.

This is also true, and it's always good to have a different perspective, BUT..........if you can afford to do it and will use it, why not?

I have spent more than I would like to admit on gear and I don't get paid but there is a certain joy in owning nice gear and you WILL use it more than you currently do, you will find reasons to go out at dawn and sit in hides in the pi##ing rain waiting for nothing to turn up.........hang on, that's me!


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Feb 04, 2014 12:12 |  #34

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I am seriously considering the jump to a big white within the next few months... The 300mm f/2.8L II IS.

The price is a bit of a turnoff though... I have plenty of great lenses, but my three powerhouse lenses (16-35 II, 24-70 II and 70-200 II) can all be had for near the price of one single 300mm...

I know I will find the 300mm useful and this lens has always been on my "dream" list... I rented the Mark I IS from CPS years ago to use with my 7D at the time and was a bit underwhelmed in its performance (I believe a dud copy though or something...) as my 300mm f/4 IS and 400mm lenses I owned near the same time were sharper, and overall better performers. Weight wise, I am fine with it to hand-hold… Heavy, but nothing I can’t handle walking around a zoo, amusement park for an hour or two, etc… Plus the “II” drops a tiny bit of weight.

But for someone who is strictly a hobbyist 95% of the time, I wonder if anybody else has had buyer’s remorse afterward with a lens such as this? I could get away with using a slower telephoto, such as the 300mm f/4 IS or my 70-200 II with an extender for what I shoot most of the time… But I would love the ability to get 420mm at f/4 with 4-stop IS and excellent IQ, or even 600mm with the 2x III… Kind of a 3-in-1 deal. Plus, I see myself as a “collector” of sorts as well, and the 300mm would be quite awesome to add to my lineup.

To help justify the purchase to myself a bit more, I graduate in May after 7 long years in College (mechanical engineering) and I already have a full-time job in my field 6-months prior to graduation and see it as somewhat of a big gift for myself for reaching my goals of where I want to be... No student loans, car payment will be gone by the end of the year… And of course, the lens will be paid in full up front, so I won’t be paying interest on it or anything…

Any input is appreciated… I know this is one of those “what can we really say?” topics, but I figured I would ask for some type of support from those who have done similar purchases!

Heya,

If you are shooting birds in flight, you will love this lens on a crop. It will take a teleconverter very well (1.4x goes to F4 with this lens; 2.0x goes to F5.6). That means you still have pretty good autofocus and still have plenty of light gobbling ability, so that you can keep that shutter speed high (1/640~1/2000).

If you're not shooting birds in flight, or you're not planning on using teleconverters, then I really wouldn't spend the money for a 300mm F2.8 lens and instead, get the F4L version instead (or even just go to the 100-400 pump). The wide aperture prime telephotos are for teleconverter use.

Alternatively, as a hobbyist, why not just try the 600mm tamron?

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Feb 04, 2014 12:22 |  #35

I tried a friend's 400mm f2.8 and whilst it was great I think I would be a bit self conscious lugging that thing around for a hobby, get plenty of looks.


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Feb 04, 2014 12:24 as a reply to  @ MalVeauX's post |  #36

I have considered the Tamron 150-600, but the images I have seen thus far and AF hunting issues have turned me off... The IQ at 600mm look like what I used to see from my OLD 70-300 zoom... Not TERRIBLE, but nothing worthwhile. Plus that f/6.3...

I am turned off from third party lenses anymore... I have tried quite a few but never as happy. I am like that with anything though... Any work I do on my car sees OEM parts generally unless aftermarket stuff is superior! With lenses, there are always huge tradeoffs... While IQ may be better, AF and build quality may suffer... Or other things.


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Feb 04, 2014 12:28 |  #37

racketman wrote in post #16663019 (external link)
I tried a friend's 400mm f2.8 and whilst it was great I think I would be a bit self conscious lugging that thing around for a hobby, get plenty of looks.

You do, but you can always invite people to have a look through the lens (that's what I do if people are curious)

Last December I was at my local RSPB reserve waiting for some young Barn Owls to come out of their box. You could see them although they were a fair distance away. With liveview and 10x mag on the LCD 20 odd people got to see something they wouldn't normally see.

We're not always seen as geeky long lens freeks :D


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Feb 04, 2014 12:29 |  #38

Invertalon wrote in post #16662725 (external link)
My tripod is plenty fine for the weight, although I may need a new tripod head...

If your gear list is up to date, I would definitely recommend a new head. The 496RC2 isn't up to the task of supporting a 6lb lens + 5D3. Take a look at the Kirk BH-1 or RRS BH-55 if you can afford it, if not I'd recommend the Cullman MB8 and have heard good things about the Sirui heads (K-40X).


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Feb 04, 2014 12:29 |  #39

Get the lens your heart desires. Be happy. You are a young man. We are not talking about a million dollar purchase here. You have plenty of time to earn money. Too many people put off the pleasurable things in life -travel, discretionary "hobby" purchases, etc. until they are too old or too busy or in poor health to enjoy them. It is one of the great tragedies of the human condition.


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Feb 04, 2014 12:33 |  #40

No regret for me and I just got a 200 f2 too.

I say go for it. You're at the stage of your life that you can probably buy anything you "want" assuming you can afford it without impacting your financial state. You have no debt, no big family responsibilities, no "accountant" to report to...just do it.

I had a friend that is single...he has a good job and also a hobbyist... he doesn't drink, gamble or anything...he bought almost all the big whites...to him they are still cheaper than some guy changing cars every few years.

If I'm in your shoes, I'd do it. :)


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Feb 04, 2014 12:37 |  #41

If money is not an issue, why not? I would buy all lenses I wanted if I have all the resources.


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Feb 04, 2014 12:46 |  #42

Is a 28-300mm Canon a medium white? HA! No regrets :)


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Feb 04, 2014 12:57 |  #43

Listen, you want it, you can afford it, and you got a go-ahead from your GF. What else do you need? Just go for it!


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Feb 04, 2014 13:06 |  #44

If you use this lens on a very sturdy, rigid tripod, you will not be disappointed with the results. Handholding can provide great results at time, but for the vast majority of your shots, you will only get the full benefit of this lens' superior optics if you use it with very stable support. If you're handholding, you may as well just use a 300mm f4, unless you really need the extra stop to gain an extra-shallow depth of field.

The thing that makes this lens, along with the 400 f2.8, such a good value is its versatility. The 1.4 and 2x converters work exceedingly well on these two f2.8 supertelephotos - perhaps better than on any of Canon's other lenses. So if you do buy this lens, along with the new 1.4 and 2x, you will effectively have a 300mm f2.8, a 420mm f4, and a 600mm f5.6, all with extremely good image quality . . . if you use a tripod for most of your shooting.


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Feb 04, 2014 13:08 |  #45

I'd still opt for the trip to Paris.

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