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Some photographers can do wildlife & bird photograph with 70-200mm?

 
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Feb 09, 2014 14:12 as a reply to  @ post 16676234 |  #16

I do all my wildlife photography with a 70-200mm f/4. Had a 300mm that I used with a teleconverter but sold it. Focal length doesn't much matter when the lens spends most of its time sitting on a shelf; the 70-200mm is small and light enough that it goes on every hike. That being said, I don't spend much time shooting birds, and I suspect my opinion would be different if I did.


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Feb 09, 2014 14:17 |  #17

I use a 300mm f/4L IS on full frame with some success. That's 'shorter' than a 200mm on a crop, if you know what I mean. I wouldn't go any shorter than that, though. Wildlife is wild, and it's best to keep your distance. (sorry, I don't mean to preach)


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Feb 09, 2014 14:22 |  #18

it can be done. I use my 18 - 200 a lot for wildlife. it works, requires some cropping usually but not terrible. Also in some of the areas where the birds and wild life are very tame I was able to get away with an 18 - 55. Though if I had the 18 - 200 at the time it'd have been more useful.


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Feb 09, 2014 14:35 |  #19

if you want to get serious with birding and have the funds, get a longer lens, it will only make life easier and give you better opportunities

in saying that with a bit of luck and patience you can still get decent shots with 200mm

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Feb 09, 2014 14:39 |  #20

hollis_f wrote in post #16676234 (external link)
In the bad old days camera manufacturers used to try to make a big thing of the huge values of 'digital zoom' on their products. Users soon realised it was hogwash. It was then and it is now.

I don't know how you read anything about "digital zoom" into my post? Not talking about that, talking about lenses, and cropping.

It's difficult to know what the OP has, or is about to purchase, or can afford, but if he only has a 200mm, that's no reason not to try, or not to enjoy trying. For most here this is a hobby, not a livelihood. When I win the lottery, I'll buy every lens in production. Until then, I'll use what I have, to the best of my ability.


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Feb 09, 2014 15:06 |  #21

It can be done, but you need to be a bit more patient. I got some outstanding bird images with my 70-200 f4 IS, but many had to be heavily cropped, and I missed a lot more shots because I was too far away. It was a bit short even for the backyard bird feeder. I've recently, and with mixed feelings, replaced my f4 IS with a 70-300L. Luckily the 70-300L is a killer lens in every respect, and not too heavy, so I'm not missing my f4 IS too much. But it was a wrench to part with it. Still, the extra 100 mm is very useful.


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Feb 09, 2014 15:10 |  #22

I don't know where you guys live, or how invisible you are, but I'm using a 400mm on a crop body and more often than not, it's still too short.


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Feb 09, 2014 15:42 |  #23

jefzor wrote in post #16676472 (external link)
I don't know where you guys live, or how invisible you are, but I'm using a 400mm on a crop body and more often than not, it's still too short.

Southern Ontario :P most of the area is so built up birds just stopped caring about humans being around as they were being fed :P I had a swan come right up to me and grab a peanut from me, I had brought the peanuts for the squirrels >_<


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Feb 09, 2014 15:58 |  #24

StillCrazy wrote in post #16676407 (external link)
I don't know how you read anything about "digital zoom" into my post? Not talking about that, talking about lenses, and cropping.

Which is exactly how 'digital zoom' operates. You crop your image down to 500x300 pixels and pretend you have a 3000mm lens.


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Feb 09, 2014 16:01 |  #25

jefzor wrote in post #16676472 (external link)
I don't know where you guys live, or how invisible you are, but I'm using a 400mm on a crop body and more often than not, it's still too short.

I don't think anyone has suggested that 200mm is going to be a great length for somebody into wildlife and bird photography. What has been said is that it is usable in some locations and with some types of wildlife, and with a bit of luck at other times.

My main nature lens is a 300 f/2.8L which, with TCs, gives me options of 300 / 420 / 600mm. Many times 600 is too short, and sometimes 300 can be too long (which is why I also like to carry a 100-400L on a second body). I have quite a number of bird and wildlife shots taken at FLs of 200mm and shorter, and in some places 200mm is perfectly adequate for getting good nature shots, but I would never claim that 200mm is suitable most of the time.




  
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Feb 09, 2014 16:07 |  #26

hollis_f wrote in post #16676575 (external link)
Which is exactly how 'digital zoom' operates. You crop your image down to 500x300 pixels and pretend you have a 3000mm lens.

Have you ever seen the amount of noise by doing that? You don't get that noise when you crop in PP. Not the same animal.


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StillCrazy wrote in post #16676407 (external link)
I don't know how you read anything about "digital zoom" into my post? Not talking about that, talking about lenses, and cropping.

It's difficult to know what the OP has, or is about to purchase, or can afford, but if he only has a 200mm, that's no reason not to try, or not to enjoy trying. For most here this is a hobby, not a livelihood. When I win the lottery, I'll buy every lens in production. Until then, I'll use what I have, to the best of my ability.

Cropping = digital zoom. Cropping doesn't get one closer, it merely chops the sides of the photo off.


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Feb 09, 2014 16:19 |  #28
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StillCrazy wrote in post #16676597 (external link)
Have you ever seen the amount of noise by doing that? You don't get that noise when you crop in PP. Not the same animal.

It's not noise. It's artifacts from up-rezzing. Doesn't matter if you do it in Photoshop or in a crappy digital camera, it's the same exact thing.


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Feb 09, 2014 18:36 |  #29

John from PA wrote in post #16675758 (external link)
Just remember to cover the camera with a plastic bag since birds will perch on your camera.

They will do other things on your camera and down the front of your lens as well... :)

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