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Thread started 09 Feb 2014 (Sunday) 16:10
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Feb 09, 2014 16:10 |  #1

... or any others that you guys would recommend? I've decided that I really want to move to a joystick/pistol-grip ball head and am wondering which of these you guys would recommend?




  
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Feb 09, 2014 16:15 |  #2

What do you expect to mount on such a head?

I have tried both types of Manfrotto pistol grip heads and don't like either one worth a hoot. I do have some rather heavy body/lens combinations, though.


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Feb 09, 2014 16:29 |  #3

None. They are never strong enough. They are too tall, making compositions more difficult, not to mention putting even more stress on the device when off-center.

And how will you control the camera? Nifty idea that for me just could never work. It's easy enough to twist a knob or a lever instead.


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Feb 09, 2014 16:52 |  #4

SkipD wrote in post #16676613 (external link)
What do you expect to mount on such a head?

I have tried both types of Manfrotto pistol grip heads and don't like either one worth a hoot. I do have some rather heavy body/lens combinations, though.

My heaviest camera/lens combo is 4lbs 12oz: 5D2 + 200mm f2.8 L II

My average is around 4lbs even.




  
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Feb 09, 2014 16:57 |  #5

sawsedge wrote in post #16676643 (external link)
None. They are never strong enough. They are too tall, making compositions more difficult, not to mention putting even more stress on the device when off-center.

And how will you control the camera? Nifty idea that for me just could never work. It's easy enough to twist a knob or a lever instead.

Hey John, maybe I'm not describing them properly, but the models I'm looking at are no taller than a typical ball head.

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Edit: I suppose these are called grip-ball heads - I see what you mean about joystick heads: 5.5lb working load, no thanks.

The two I'm looking at are rated at 11 and 12 pound capacities respectively. The 13lb-capacity 496RC2 I use currently is sufficiently strong to hold my equipment. Do you have first-hand experience with either of these two ballheads?

"And how will you control the camera?" - not sure what you are refering to with this? The camera is not controlled any differently than with a regular head type - I wouldn't be using this for video panning if that's what you mean.

Thanks for you input.

-Blake



  
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Feb 09, 2014 19:15 |  #6

NotBlake wrote in post #16676689 (external link)
My heaviest camera/lens combo is 4lbs 12oz: 5D2 + 200mm f2.8 L II

My average is around 4lbs even.

not 100% sure which model manfrotto joystick i had, but i think it was the 322RC2. anyway, it couldn't even hold my 40d + 24-105. if it's angled just a bit, the whole thing would drop down. there's no way in hell it would support the 200mm. really a piece of sht.

you're probably better off with a high quality ballhead or whatever else you like.


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Feb 09, 2014 19:19 |  #7

That's a little different. I don't have experience with those personally, thought you meant the tall pistol grips. I tried one of those once in a store; steered well clear after that.

As far as controlling the camera, I mean that I don't see an easy way to pan, taking pictures of moving objects. I find it easy enough to loosen the ballhead with a standard knob and hold the camera with my right hand, and zoom with the left. If you are just doing stills then it isn't a big deal.


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Feb 10, 2014 07:15 |  #8

NotBlake wrote in post #16676696 (external link)
Hey John, maybe I'm not describing them properly, but the models I'm looking at are no taller than a typical ball head.

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Blake, the side-grip ball head takes up one heck of a lot of space when storing or carrying a tripod. In addition, I find it very awkward to require one hand to be on the handle. A tripod with a conventional ball head is smaller and easier to pack or carry (especially across your back with a strap).

I prefer to use a conventional ball head because I can simply set the drag on the ball to allow me to position the camera with two hands and then I reach down and tighten the ball when I've got the camera in position.


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Feb 10, 2014 07:47 |  #9

None. They're not good: slipping, sagging, drooping, you name it, they have it.

But if you absolutely must have one, then the one with the highest load rating.


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Feb 10, 2014 10:14 |  #10

Stay away from those heads. They suck. Just get a quality ball head and don't bother with the grip-type heads, they don't work for a crap.


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Feb 10, 2014 10:17 as a reply to  @ Jptenberg's post |  #11

Thanks for the input guys. Really like the concept - wish someone would come up with a decent one.

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