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What do you NOT want to see on the new Canon 7D II

 
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Feb 07, 2014 13:36 |  #166

I never did understand that whole wall clock around the neck thing.


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Feb 10, 2014 15:23 |  #167

gjl711 wrote in post #16671460 (external link)
I never did understand that whole wall clock around the neck thing.

That's Flavor Flav, it's just kind of his "thing."


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Feb 11, 2014 15:59 |  #168

A price higher than 1500 Euros.


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Feb 17, 2014 16:42 |  #169

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I want a camera with high IQ stills not video, I have used video 4 times in the last 4 years and it was just to play with cus i was bored or show someone how cool it was. With canon making dedicated video cameras ala 1dc, canon needs to seperate them then. Have a 5dc and 7dc for video with strong aa filters and have a 7d and 5d with outstanding image quality no AA filters. That way we have a choice and no compromise. F*ck video lol.

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Feb 21, 2014 18:07 |  #170

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Just that I'm damn sure the video haters wouldn't feel like they would come out the winners - just for dropping the video feature the extremely much higher "fully geared" price would be so high that they would also have to drop quite a number of other features they are currently using and have buy something very close to a "totally dumb" model. And still more expensive than Canon's current offerings...

I think some points are being missed. I don't mind video, GPS, wifi, espresso maker... So long as it doesn't reduce the quality of the still images I take (primary purpose of the camera) - which, in current form, it does (due to AA filter being so darn thick).

I still think a removable AA filter system could work wonders for everyone, and make Canon more money by making them an "extra". Having various strength levels would also make more money - thin, medium and thick for various purposes.

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Feb 21, 2014 18:46 |  #171

EtherealZee wrote in post #16707577 (external link)
I think some points are being missed. I don't mind video, GPS, wifi, espresso maker... So long as it doesn't reduce the quality of the still images I take (primary purpose of the camera) - which, in current form, it does (due to AA filter being so darn thick).

I still think a removable AA filter system could work wonders for everyone, and make Canon more money by making them an "extra". Having various strength levels would also make more money - thin, medium and thick for various purposes.

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The Canon sensors have a special function where a single scanline read of the sensor can actually read out the average of three scanlines. This means that the sensor can be read three times as fast with only a third number of scanline reads. But it also means that the readout represents a low-pass filtering in the vertical direction. The DiGIC chip could perform a corresponding low-pass filtering in the horisontal direction.

In short - a video-capable DSLR could manage the stronger AA filtering needed without involving an optical filter. It's all a question of being able to read out all the image data and perform a scale down to the video resolution. It's only when the video data is retrieved by skipping a number of scanlines that the video function requires a really strong AA filter to compensate for the too low light sampling introduced by all the skipped sensor pixels.

A new sensor produced in a finer geometry where Canon can fit lots of AD conversion electronics directly on the chip, Canon will be able to improve further on this concept - having the sensor basically perform a full-resolution downscale directly in sensor hardware in real time. And allowing video capture at very, very high frame rates. All without very strong AA filters.

The next thing to consider is that a low-resolution sensor does require a quite strong AA filter, because the lenses out-resolves the sensor giving lots of Moiré issues. When Canon finally do release a very high-resolution sensor, they will be able to step back a lot on the AA filtering because the lenses will be natural low-pass filters.

Always remember that replaceable AA filters means an increased cost because a part that requires an extremely high production precision has to be fitted with a new mechanic that makes it moveable or flippable or jackable. That represents extra cost. And extra problems. And a number of users will have oops moments that makes them miss lots of photo opportunities because their cameras will be traveling back to Canon for repair.


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Mar 24, 2014 13:45 |  #172

No video.



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Mar 25, 2014 15:13 |  #173

Put a 2x convertor on a e.g. 100-400 5.6 lens and get autofocus.




  
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Mar 26, 2014 01:24 |  #174

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Put a 2x convertor on a e.g. 100-400 5.6 lens and get autofocus.

Why would you not want the 7D2 to be able to shoot with slow lenses?


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Mar 26, 2014 10:37 |  #175

MAE wrote in post #16785614 (external link)
Put a 2x convertor on a e.g. 100-400 5.6 lens and get autofocus.

You can do that now. Just tape the pins.


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Apr 02, 2014 14:19 |  #176

Not want? The 70D sensor... I don't care about anything else (video, tilt screen, wifi, GPS, etc.). Include that stuff, or don't include it, I don't care. But please concentrate on improving still photo IQ.




  
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Apr 02, 2014 14:41 |  #177

KatManDEW wrote in post #16804603 (external link)
Not want? The 70D sensor... I don't care about anything else (video, tilt screen, wifi, GPS, etc.). Include that stuff, or don't include it, I don't care. But please concentrate on improving still photo IQ.

Same for me. The one thing I do not want to see is a sensor that is not significantly improved - especially regarding ISO performance. Less than 20MP would be a disappointment as well. Since the 70D is 20MP - which corresponds to the 6D - it would be nice to see at least 22MP or even 24MP.

If Canon can deliver clearly better image quality - especially higher ISO performance since it ought to be a great wildlife camera - then I will enthusiastically buy it.


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Apr 02, 2014 14:43 |  #178

look,canon is going to make the 7d-2 the way they see fit,, i just hope they keep the alloy body and skip the plastic crap, also truly this post is over done there will be lots to talk about when it gets hear-some day soon!


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Apr 03, 2014 18:57 |  #179

Definitely no GPS please ;)


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May 17, 2014 06:51 |  #180

  • no GPS (1)
  • Single slot card
  • Crazy high megapixel


1) Suck a lot of batteries if isn't disabled from the camera.



  
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