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jking88
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Feb 12, 2014 09:01 |  #1

Hey guys! Picking up a 40d to shoot mainly surf photography. I have already ordered a 55-250 mk2 to use to shoot surfing. But im trying to decide on a walk around lens to buy. The 50 1.8 is insanely cheep but as im using it on a crop sensor I really don't think I will get much use out of that focal range. I understand it will be much better indoors and in low light with the large aperture than the tele lens will be at 55mm and f4 but for shooting landscape and lifestyle idk how that FOCAL range will suit me. I think the 28mm would lend itself mich better for a every day walk around lens. But what has me stuck is that after spending money on the 40d kit and the tele lens I only have enough money to pick up the 50. So here's the big question. Do I pick up the 50 any way and hope that I'm not disappointed with the "portait" type focal length even considering I can get one for like 75 bux. Or do I hold out and save some money until I can just get the 28 1.8 ....keep in mind if I don't pick up the 50 right now the only lens I will have is the 55-250 and I'm ok with that bc my main focus is surf photigraphy its just that id have to wait a month or so to pick up the 28mm. So untill than I'd have only the 55-250 that's going to be useless indoors and in low light. Thanks in advance for your opinions they are much appreciated!


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Feb 12, 2014 09:12 |  #2

For indoors, I'd recommend an 18-55mm IS STM and a flash.




  
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Feb 12, 2014 09:32 |  #3

If you decide on the 28mm, then I'd suggest a different Canon 28mm lens. The 28mm 1.8 is not very sharp wide open. Stopping down to 2.8 really helps. Now, for just a little more $ than the 28mm 1.8, you could buy the new Canon 28mm 2.8 IS. This is an outstanding new lens and it is far better than the 1.8 version ...plus you get IS. And the IS would allow you to shoot at slower speeds, which would balance out the fact that you have 2.8 instead of 1.8. Something to consider.




  
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Feb 12, 2014 11:09 |  #4

Rent, steal, beg, borrow an 18-55 lens to use for a week. Then you will have some idea if 28 or 50 or? is best for your needs. None of us know the answer to that.


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Feb 12, 2014 11:21 |  #5

The 50 isn't much wider than the 55-250. i'd vote to wait and get the 28 or pick up a cheap 18-55 for the time being


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Feb 12, 2014 11:24 |  #6

frugivore wrote in post #16683521 (external link)
For indoors, I'd recommend an 18-55mm IS STM and a flash.

I second this opinion. For 129.00 with free ship off Amazon its a great lens for the money. IMHO

I also have the 50mm 1.8 Mark 1 metal mount lens. A very nice lens that I use almost only for macro with adaptors




  
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Feb 12, 2014 11:25 |  #7

The only lens I used for my first two years shooting DSLR was the 60mm f/2.8 Macro, and I shot it on a crop sensor. It was a wonderful walk-around focal length and 28 would have been too wide for much of what I wanted to do. The 18-55 would have been too slow; I would have preferred a wider aperture than f/2.8. Your mileage may vary, but I'd highly recommend the 50.




  
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Feb 12, 2014 11:27 |  #8

frugivore wrote in post #16683521 (external link)
For indoors, I'd recommend an 18-55mm IS STM and a flash.

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Feb 12, 2014 11:53 |  #9

Since you don't know what focal length suits your needs- outside of your surfing need (55-250)- why the rush to buy a second lens? I'd say use you 40D and 55-250 first. Then figure out what FL you need. 55mm is close enough for you to get a feel to decide if 50 is too long, too short or just right.




  
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Feb 12, 2014 11:58 |  #10

jking88 wrote in post #16683494 (external link)
Hey guys! Picking up a 40d to shoot mainly surf photography. I have already ordered a 55-250 mk2 to use to shoot surfing. But im trying to decide on a walk around lens to buy. The 50 1.8 is insanely cheep but as im using it on a crop sensor I really don't think I will get much use out of that focal range. I understand it will be much better indoors and in low light with the large aperture than the tele lens will be at 55mm and f4 but for shooting landscape and lifestyle idk how that FOCAL range will suit me. I think the 28mm would lend itself mich better for a every day walk around lens. But what has me stuck is that after spending money on the 40d kit and the tele lens I only have enough money to pick up the 50. So here's the big question. Do I pick up the 50 any way and hope that I'm not disappointed with the "portait" type focal length even considering I can get one for like 75 bux. Or do I hold out and save some money until I can just get the 28 1.8 ....keep in mind if I don't pick up the 50 right now the only lens I will have is the 55-250 and I'm ok with that bc my main focus is surf photigraphy its just that id have to wait a month or so to pick up the 28mm. So untill than I'd have only the 55-250 that's going to be useless indoors and in low light. Thanks in advance for your opinions they are much appreciated!

Save up your money for a lens that does what you want.

In the mean time, grab someone's 18-55 lens. Any one will do. They generally can be had in the $50~75 range too. Very good lenses actually, considering their cost. Nothing wrong with them. They're obviously not premium lenses, but you get the idea.

Use that 18-55 at different static focal lengths. Like 18, 20, 24, 28, 35 and 50. See what you think of each one. Lock one in, and do a shoot with it. See which particular focal length option really is your "go to" length. You may find it is probably 24~35, I'm going to bet. Unless you really like it wide, in which case, you'll probably hang back towards 18~20. But that will help guide you towards the lens that you really want.

Then you can figure out if you want to buy a prime in that length. Or if a really good zoom that includes that length is an option. There are wide aperture zooms (F2.8) that are reasonably priced, and very sharp. Mean while, you can look at primes with F1.4 to F2.8 easily too that are very sharp.

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Feb 12, 2014 12:15 |  #11

I liked the 28/1.8 on my 60D a lot and never had issues with sharpness wide open. I think it's a fine choice for walkaround prime on a crop. There's a rabid hatred of the lens on this forum, so they often go for low prices on the marketplace here.

That said, if I were doing it again today, I'd get the new Sigma 30/1.4 over the 28/1.8. The Sigma is the king of crop normal primes, imo.


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Feb 12, 2014 13:47 |  #12

Get the pancake: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …0mm_f_2_8_EF_Pa​ncake.html (external link)

I picked mine up on sale new for $149, looks like the price has gone up since then but it's still a good deal and a great walkaround lens. Manual focus isn't the best, but then again neither is MF on the 50 f/1.8. Autofocus is reasonably fast and very accurate, and the optics rival any f/2.8 pro zoom at the 40mm focal length. I think it's a great focal length on crop (and I thought 50mm was a bit long), obviously YMMV. Another excellent crop-friendly prime is the Sigma 30mm f/1.4, from what I've heard. Of course, knowing what focal length you prefer is important, thus I second (third?) the recommendation to pick up any old 18-55 off ebay, play around with it, and sell it later if desired.


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Feb 12, 2014 15:27 |  #13

Yup, def the 18-55 STM or the 40. I have both and you can't come close to IQ and reliable AF for the money. Both light years better than the Nifty Fifty, had one of those too. Neat to toy with but unreliable focus is not worth chance in my book.


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Feb 12, 2014 18:54 |  #14

I also vote for the 18-55mm and 55-250mm combo. They are good general purpose lenses.
They teach you what FL you like and work your way out from there.
Theres is also a 14mm f2.8 but it is manual focus only. A 18-55mm should be fine.


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Feb 12, 2014 19:16 |  #15

nightcat wrote in post #16683582 (external link)
If you decide on the 28mm, then I'd suggest a different Canon 28mm lens. The 28mm 1.8 is not very sharp wide open. Stopping down to 2.8 really helps. Now, for just a little more $ than the 28mm 1.8, you could buy the new Canon 28mm 2.8 IS. This is an outstanding new lens and it is far better than the 1.8 version ...plus you get IS. And the IS would allow you to shoot at slower speeds, which would balance out the fact that you have 2.8 instead of 1.8. Something to consider.

I can't see buying the 28/2.8 if one is on crop. Either get the 35/2 IS for the extra stop, the Sigma 30/1.4 for two stops, or the Sigma 17-50 OS and be able to zoom.


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