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Feb 12, 2014 13:46 |  #31

if you choose these

6D + EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

you will get a very very sharp images


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Feb 12, 2014 14:04 |  #32

moltengold wrote in post #16684158 (external link)
Camera Model Canon EOS 6D
Av(Aperture Value) 2.8
ISO Speed 5000
Lens EF85mm f/1.8 USM

QUOTED IMAGE

100% crop

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Woow, nice set :p!


  
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Feb 12, 2014 14:11 |  #33

Thanks
but i sold some of them
and i think i will sell the rest all
i will choose a small body with one or two lenses like the 50 f/1.4 and the 60 f/2.8 macro
who need all of these for family photos :)


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Feb 12, 2014 14:24 |  #34

moltengold wrote in post #16684266 (external link)
Thanks
but i sold some of them
and i think i will sell the rest all
i will choose a small body with one or two lenses like the 50 f/1.4 and the 60 f/2.8 macro
who need all of these for family photos :)

Certainly it's a wise decision. I sometimes think that buying a FF is foolhardy, since my economy is currently not very prosperous... :oops: and really i'd take family photos, like you.


  
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Feb 12, 2014 15:06 |  #35

moltengold wrote in post #16684266 (external link)
Thanks
but i sold some of them
and i think i will sell the rest all
i will choose a small body with one or two lenses like the 50 f/1.4 and the 60 f/2.8 macro
who need all of these for family photos :)

I thought 60 f2.8 macro is a crop lens?


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Feb 12, 2014 15:41 |  #36

sardines wrote in post #16684409 (external link)
I thought 60 f2.8 macro is a crop lens?

yes its an EF-S for the crop
and that what i said
i need to go to a small body ( crop ) with a good price less than the FF and less than my new 70D
i will use it for small works like family photos and simple macro works


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Feb 12, 2014 15:54 |  #37

kin2son wrote in post #16683145 (external link)
How about go back to the store, put on a 50 1.4 or something and try it out yourself?

Reason I say this is 6D owners here will tell you there is no problem with the AF, and others will disagree.

You simply won't and can't find the answer here I'm afraid, best to test it out yourself imho.

On one hand, those who don't own a 6D are probably parroting what they've read somewhere while "6D owners" are sharing their first hand experience. As a 6D owner I have not experienced auto focus problems with mine, and I have no real interest in whether you buy one or not so I would tell you if I did.

On the other hand testing one out for yourself is sage advice. :cool:

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Feb 12, 2014 16:10 as a reply to  @ jdickerson's post |  #38

I have used - but do not own - a 5DII and a 5DIII. They are great cameras. That said, I bought a 6D for my own use. The center-focus on a 6D is great and the 6D does a great job in low light. IMHO it is better in low light than a 5DIII.


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Feb 12, 2014 16:13 |  #39
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I have about 1,000 shots on my 6D. I came to it from a 5Dc, which has the same AF system as the 5D2. The 6D is markedly better, in any lighting, with any AF point, than either the 5Dc or 5D2. It is better at obtaining focus with an outer point. It is better at tracking focus with my T28-75 and my Σ70-200 OS. I originally planned to hang on to my 60D because of the center dual-cross f/2.8 and 8 peripheral cross points. The 6D is better at chasing my dogs and grandkids around the yard than the 5D ever hoped to be. It may be better than the 60D, that is a close one. Now I am not keeping my 60D because of AF, I am keeping it because it is worth more to me than the peasly $450 I'd get from selling it. Don't worry about the AF on the 6D. It is up to anything you don't need a 7D or 5D3 for.


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Feb 12, 2014 17:14 |  #40
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EOS5DC wrote in post #16684589 (external link)
The 6D is better at chasing my dogs and grandkids around the yard than the 5D ever hoped to be. It may be better than the 60D, that is a close one.

Well the only thing left for you to test is tracking your grandkids and dogs using a single outer point in various lighting conditions on both 6D and 60D to compare and see which one gives you a higher success rate ;)


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Feb 12, 2014 17:21 |  #41

MakisM1 wrote in post #16683395 (external link)
This is misleading...:rolleyes:

The Focal Length and the aperture do not change, as they are physical characteristics of the length. Period!

The Field of View provided by a 50 on a crop camera is similar to an 80.
The aperture does not change. The light metering results for an average lit photo will remain the same if you change bodies.

Actually, the DOF does not appreciably change if you shoot an object from the same distance.

The commonly held misconception that the FF has a shallower DOF materializes only if the photographer CHOOSES TO MAINTAIN THE SAME FIELD OF VIEW OF A FF ON A CROP and backs off.

For example, take a photo of a group of children from the same spot, with the same lens and the same aperture, shutter speed and ISO. Crop both photos to frame one child's head. The two photos will be nearly identical, same FOV, same DOF, same lighting. Depending on the sensor generation differences, the crop will have more pixels in the photo, up to a lot more.

This is totally arbitrary, but understandable. However, let's not propagate untruths or half-truths.:rolleyes:

My intention is not to mislead anyone, just the opposite. Perhaps I did not elaborate enough. Yes, the FL remains the same, i meant to type "the FOV is about 80mm," my mistake. And yes there are other slight details and complexities involving compression of the image versus the subject distance where having a longer focal length requires more distance from the subject to achieve this.
In oder to keep the same frame of a subject to keep the same resolution without cropping, this requires a crop shooter to step back to frame the subject, thereby increase to DOF of the subject, not changing the physical aperture of the lens, no, but 'creating' a FOV similar to 80mm at f2.8 when using a 50mm f1.4 lens on crop.


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kin2son wrote in post #16684736 (external link)
Well the only thing left for you to test is tracking your grandkids and dogs using a single outer point in various lighting conditions on both 6D and 60D to compare and see which one gives you a higher success rate ;)

That is too involved for me; 90% of the time I use the center point. The AF on the 6D is adjustable for several parameters. I don't ever see using that feature. Whatever AF differences there are between the 60D and 6D are sort of irrelevant to me. I use them both similarly, except for my 6D/35 IS combo for low/poor lighting situations.


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Feb 12, 2014 18:08 |  #43
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EOS5DC wrote in post #16684790 (external link)
That is too involved for me; 90% of the time I use the center point.

Just pretend the center point has moved to the side and stay there? :p


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Feb 12, 2014 18:20 |  #44

kin2son wrote in post #16684736 (external link)
Well the only thing left for you to test is tracking your grandkids and dogs using a single outer point in various lighting conditions on both 6D and 60D to compare and see which one gives you a higher success rate ;)

He shoots MF from what I know and nobody going to say that get 10% keeper rate in AI servo. I can show this from my 6d and say hey look 85mm AI servo, moving kid at f1.4, no problem, go buy it.

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They don't know I must have taken 50-60 shots to get this one. Do I get OOF with 5dmk3, yes but lot less than 6d suing same lens, same technique, same shooter. If you shooting center point, then get 6d agree.

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Feb 12, 2014 18:24 |  #45

Keep this in mind: if you aren't comfortable with the 6D autofocus, your only options (with Canon) are the 5D3 and the 1Dx. That's it.

Nikon has a better autofocus at the same price (D610), and that's great IF you are comfortable with their system. But if you are used to Canon and it's what you really like, then get the 6D and do your best or spend another $1000 and get a 5D3.

There aren't a lot of choices at this level.


I am horrible with outer points. I don't even try. I only use center point, so the 6D fits my inadequacy just fine. But I do lose shots that way, especially close ups.


Have fun anyway. :). Good luck. :(


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