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Feb 14, 2014 13:55 |  #1

Hey guys. I'm new to wide angles and wanted to get some advice. I plan on buying a lens before my trip to Hawaii next month. I currently shoot with a 6D (full frame), and have the 24-105 lens it came with. I also have an EF 85mm 1.8 prime I use.

I've been reading a lot and have been leaning towards the 16-35 F2.8L II. I like the idea of a zoom as they are handy and I'm not a pro. I'd like to keep my lens count down and I see this as a possible lifetime lens that will take care of my wider lens needs. It is spendy, but seems to be the best wide zoom I can find, which makes it less likely I will want to replace it. The biggest complaint I see is that it is softer than most primes.

Any thoughts would be great. If you have, or have shot with this lens how did you like it? Does another lens come to mind that I should consider? My future wish list: 24-70L, 70-200L. Possibly a standard prime as well. Thanks.


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Feb 14, 2014 13:57 |  #2
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cant get much better than the 16-35L II, unless you want insanely wide then there is the 14 2.8L. I think the 16 is plenty though


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Feb 14, 2014 14:24 as a reply to  @ Karl Johnston's post |  #3

The 16-35 is a great choice. As an alternative, you can also look at the 17-40 as well. It's a bit softer in the corners to the 16-35, but if you stop down, that really shouldn't be a problem. I have shot with both, but I switched my lens lineup up a lot and stuck with the 17-40. The 16-35 also give you the flexibility for astrophotography work with the f/2.8 aperture. That would be especially interesting in Hawaii if you get away from the city lights.




  
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Feb 14, 2014 14:34 |  #4

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Hey guys. I'm new to wide angles and wanted to get some advice. I plan on buying a lens before my trip to Hawaii next month. I currently shoot with a 6D (full frame), and have the 24-105 lens it came with. I also have an EF 85mm 1.8 prime I use.

I've been reading a lot and have been leaning towards the 16-35 F2.8L II. I like the idea of a zoom as they are handy and I'm not a pro. I'd like to keep my lens count down and I see this as a possible lifetime lens that will take care of my wider lens needs. It is spendy, but seems to be the best wide zoom I can find, which makes it less likely I will want to replace it. The biggest complaint I see is that it is softer than most primes.

Any thoughts would be great. If you have, or have shot with this lens how did you like it? Does another lens come to mind that I should consider? My future wish list: 24-70L, 70-200L. Possibly a standard prime as well. Thanks.

Heya,

The 16-35 F2.8 is a great lens for wide angle. It's aperture allows for astrophotography which matches very well with your 6D. Those two combined, and you can do some nice 30 second exposures at 1600 ISO that will look as if they have next to no noise at all. Would be lovely at night in the dark zones on the islands.

35mm is also a nice length to have for walk around.

Just be aware of distortion. Ultrawide angle distorts around the edges. Kind of the nature of the beast, everything ultrawide distorts and eventually becomes fisheye once you get too wide (8mm).

If you have no aspirations for astrophotography, the 17-40 F4L would have been a go to for cost.

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Feb 14, 2014 15:06 |  #5

16-35 II good choice, if the llights bright I find a B+W ND06 filter works great on it, its really good for sun stars too.


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Feb 14, 2014 17:02 |  #6

the little EF 35mm f/2 is small, fast, sharp and affordable. if you want an ultra-wide, and if you can work out how to use hyper-focus (set camera to AV, nudge back this side of infinity - focusing, set aperture to f/8 or 11 - voila! everything is in focus - duh?), consider the manual focusing Samyang/Rokinon,et al 14mm f/2.8. again, sharp, as fast as the mega wide angle zooms (maybe sharper), and a whole lot cheaper. the only drawback to the 14mm is that because of the curved front element, it is not compatible with screw on filters (though Samyang just announced a partnership with Cokin (I think) to bring a clip-on filter holder to market. the 14mm is a sweet lens, imho.

take another trip with the money saved.




  
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Feb 14, 2014 17:44 |  #7

daleg wrote in post #16689849 (external link)
the little EF 35mm f/2 is small, fast, sharp and affordable. if you want an ultra-wide, and if you can work out how to use hyper-focus (set camera to AV, nudge back this side of infinity - focusing, set aperture to f/8 or 11 - voila! everything is in focus - duh?), consider the manual focusing Samyang/Rokinon,et al 14mm f/2.8. again, sharp, as fast as the mega wide angle zooms (maybe sharper), and a whole lot cheaper. the only drawback to the 14mm is that because of the curved front element, it is not compatible with screw on filters (though Samyang just announced a partnership with Cokin (I think) to bring a clip-on filter holder to market. the 14mm is a sweet lens, imho.

take another trip with the money saved.

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Feb 14, 2014 17:51 |  #8

Thanks a ton guys! I really appreciate your input.

So far I would say the 17-40 would meet my immediate needs fine. But I think I would probably upgrade at some point to the 16-35 so why not just do it now?

I think I am now confident to buy. Now, where to buy from? Adorama has it for $1548 in cart. They give 2% cash back and I get 2% cash back with them with my Fat Wallet account. Not seeing anything better.


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Feb 14, 2014 17:54 |  #9

daleg wrote in post #16689849 (external link)
the little EF 35mm f/2 is small, fast, sharp and affordable. if you want an ultra-wide, and if you can work out how to use hyper-focus (set camera to AV, nudge back this side of infinity - focusing, set aperture to f/8 or 11 - voila! everything is in focus - duh?), consider the manual focusing Samyang/Rokinon,et al 14mm f/2.8. again, sharp, as fast as the mega wide angle zooms (maybe sharper), and a whole lot cheaper. the only drawback to the 14mm is that because of the curved front element, it is not compatible with screw on filters (though Samyang just announced a partnership with Cokin (I think) to bring a clip-on filter holder to market. the 14mm is a sweet lens, imho.

take another trip with the money saved.

From what I've read you are correct here. Unfortunately I am really looking for a Zoom. Just preference. I'm willing to give up a bit of IQ for the convenience zoom offers.


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Feb 14, 2014 18:06 |  #10

I spent 2 weeks in Maui in November, and the 17-40L was glued to my 6D 90% of the trip.




  
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Feb 14, 2014 18:24 |  #11

Purchased! Should have it in a week or so :-)

Thanks again guys.


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Feb 14, 2014 22:55 |  #12

You have a good CPL too yes?


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Feb 15, 2014 14:39 |  #13

Personally I wouldn't buy a lens but rent while there. Go to http://www.hawaiicamer​a.com/rentals/canon/le​nses/oahu (external link) to check selection. As an example the Canon 17-40 is $60/ week.

Great service, and they will professionally clean a sensor for $30 as well.




  
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Feb 15, 2014 16:28 |  #14

I would pick the Tokina 16-28 if you are not going to use any filters.


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Feb 15, 2014 19:08 |  #15

John from PA wrote in post #16691658 (external link)
Personally I wouldn't buy a lens but rent while there. Go to http://www.hawaiicamer​a.com/rentals/canon/le​nses/oahu (external link) to check selection. As an example the Canon 17-40 is $60/ week.

Great service, and they will professionally clean a sensor for $30 as well.

Unfortunately we'll be in Maui and Kauai.


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