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Dec 15, 2013 12:50 |  #31

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I don't have a 5D III, but I'm curious as to how most of you use the two slots. For those of you that require an in-camera back-up, e.g. wedding photographers, do you shoot 1) raw and JPG to each card 2) raw to the CF and JPG to the SD 3) One raw to each 4) other

The conventional wisdom is to store the larger files (RAW) on the faster write card (CF), with the smaller files (JPG) going to the slower write card (SD)


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Dec 15, 2013 14:44 |  #32

I'm trying cf raw and sd to eye-fi wireless jpg for quick preview




  
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Dec 16, 2013 14:31 as a reply to  @ Down_Shift's post |  #33

Last summer, I was shooting with both cards when the camera just stopped allowing shots. I later discovered that the SD card had filled (4GB), and the camera would not continue with the CF (32GB). I did not research the issue, but in this case, it seems that when one card fills, shooting will stop. I don't bother with the SD card now.

edit-Camera was set to send raw to CF and jpg to SD




  
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Dec 17, 2013 09:43 as a reply to  @ KeithS's post |  #34

One word of warning about the 5D3 vs the dual slot functionality on the 1D series...

If you set the 5D3 to record separately, let's say raw to CF and JPG to SD, then later pull the SD, the camera will not automatically change the settings to send both files to one card. The JPGs will be gone, and you will only have raws on the CF. It does warn you, but won't change the setting for you. The camera will, however, automatically change the playback to the CF card for you. Very surprising, I was always used to the 1D3 and 1D4 where it would change over to use the one card for everything.

Unless I am forgetting how the 1Ds worked?


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Feb 16, 2014 11:25 |  #35

so which mb/s is card should one go for if primarily shooting stills with hardly any sports stuff and the occassional video?


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Feb 16, 2014 15:17 |  #36

0.0f wrote in post #16693667 (external link)
so which mb/s is card should one go for if primarily shooting stills with hardly any sports stuff and the occassional video?

Generally, go for the fastest you can afford. Not for the write speed, but for when you download back to your computer. Slower cards can slow the download process too. I use Sandisk cards with 60 MB/sec as a minimum for my workflow.


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Feb 16, 2014 15:28 as a reply to  @ tgara's post |  #37

AM I right in assuming that if I am using the CF slot for RAW and just have an SD card sat in its slot but not being used, there will be no adverse effect on speed to the CF card?


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Feb 16, 2014 15:33 |  #38

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It was just discovered that the SD slot on the 5D3 does not use high speed standards and only uses the original SD standard; therefore no high data transfer rate.

The 5D3 has no use for the fastest SD standards.

This is because the DiGIC chip can only support one (1) memory card.

The 1D-series cameras manages two cards with their two DiGIC chips.

The 5D3 has only one DiGIC chip. So the SD card isn't connected to the DiGIC chip but instead connected to the user-interface processor. So the DiGIC chip has to tunnel any data to the user interface processor and the user interface processor may then write to the SD card.

So it doesn't matter how fast SD cards that are used - the 5D3 just isn't able to write quickly to SD cards.

By the way - SD cards always uses 4-bit mode in "real" products. The 1-bit mode is just a compatibility mode. And you don't need to pay any member fees to get access to the required documentation how to access a card in 1-bit mode.

Next thing - 4-bit or 8-bit doesn't really matter when it comes to transfer capabilities between SD and CF. It's all about how fast clock speeds the interface can run at. Think about the PCI express computer board interface - it's faster than the PCI interface despite being serial while PCI has a very wide transfer bus. Same with our SATA disks - Serial-ATA instead of the parallell interface of the original IDE disks.


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Feb 16, 2014 15:33 |  #39

Plumtreelad wrote in post #16694226 (external link)
AM I right in assuming that if I am using the CF slot for RAW and just have an SD card sat in its slot but not being used, there will be no adverse effect on speed to the CF card?

It doesn't matter what you do with the SD interface until you request the camera to start storing data there.


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Feb 16, 2014 15:35 |  #40

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It doesn't matter what you do with the SD interface until you request the camera to start storing data there.

Thanks pwm2


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Feb 17, 2014 05:28 |  #41

0.0f wrote in post #16693667 (external link)
so which mb/s is card should one go for if primarily shooting stills with hardly any sports stuff and the occassional video?


I echo Tgara's sentiments

TBH I did use the Extreme III for shooting sport as well a couple of years ago without any problem but Sandisk Extreme III 60 Mb/s will do very well for most uses.


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Feb 17, 2014 13:58 |  #42

I primarily shoot weddings, seniors and families. I use both slots for RAW. Works fine for my shooting methods and have had no SD failures.

I use to shoot the 1D3 the same way for several years. No problems there either and I used it primarily for sports - football, volleyball, baseball etc.


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