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Feb 21, 2014 01:23 |  #31

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I'm surprised the Mods have not noticed that you are posting others pictures, rather than links, which is against the forum rules.

I used someone else's pic as an example to learn something & I should be punished? WOW!


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Feb 21, 2014 01:30 |  #32

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Can I buy these grids & attach them to my softboxes?

I don't know how your lights are built. Softboxes aren't generally designed to hold much more than a honeycomb grid but that isn't really what you need. You need more control over the light than that. You may be able to use black posterboard though to rig something to tighten that light up and get it under control. Use your imagination. Crafting such things is part of the fun. :-)


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Feb 21, 2014 01:53 |  #33

HoldyourfireAl wrote in post #16705739 (external link)
I used someone else's pic as an example to learn something & I should be punished? WOW!

That's a rule I have not seen on other forums, but it is a good one. On the web, copyright violations are the rule rather than the exception. On this forum, they honor photographers by simply not allowing the posting of others photos so to make it less likely that someone will not post a photo that could possibly violate someone's rights.

Not only that, but it keeps us from believing a photo is the poster's photo when it is not.

It is apparent to me that the black of the other photo is due to post processing. Using Firefox as a browser (available for Chrome, too) I examined the background with http://www.colorzilla.​com/ (external link). There is no variance in the black, it is hex #000000 from the top to the bottom. The only way you could achieve this would be in post.


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Feb 21, 2014 03:41 |  #34

HoldyourfireAl wrote in post #16705739 (external link)
I used someone else's pic as an example to learn something & I should be punished? WOW!

No. Not punished. And you can use the photo as an example. But we're all big on copyright. So the board rules are simple. If you want to use an image that isn't yours, post a link to it rather than posting the image itself. All someone has to do is click on it to see it and no copyright is violated. The most punishment you would likely see for this would be a request to change it to a link and if you ignored that, then they would just remove it because the site owners don't want to be held accountable for possible copyright violations of members.


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Feb 21, 2014 06:40 |  #35

Have you tried black flocking paper?


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Feb 21, 2014 12:47 |  #36

Nogo wrote in post #16705776 (external link)
That's a rule I have not seen on other forums, but it is a good one. On the web, copyright violations are the rule rather than the exception. On this forum, they honor photographers by simply not allowing the posting of others photos so to make it less likely that someone will not post a photo that could possibly violate someone's rights.

Not only that, but it keeps us from believing a photo is the poster's photo when it is not.

It is apparent to me that the black of the other photo is due to post processing. Using Firefox as a browser (available for Chrome, too) I examined the background with http://www.colorzilla.​com/ (external link). There is no variance in the black, it is hex #000000 from the top to the bottom. The only way you could achieve this would be in post.

I'm so glad that's settled! A friend of mine started teaching me masking in Photoshop CS2 last night. He instructed me using a simple image of a rubber duck. After I was done speaking to him, I decided to use the Magic Wand as he instructed me, but that didn't work out very well.

I went back to Selective Color>Black & I liked the results, except that it darkened the base too much. I have to talk to him again, but I think if I create different layers & mask while doing Selective Color>Black, I can somehow use the Brush Tool & bring back the parts of the base that are getting too dark. I'm kinda confused as to how to do this, but I think I'll figure it out.


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Feb 21, 2014 12:49 |  #37

kfreels wrote in post #16705884 (external link)
No. Not punished. And you can use the photo as an example. But we're all big on copyright. So the board rules are simple. If you want to use an image that isn't yours, post a link to it rather than posting the image itself. All someone has to do is click on it to see it and no copyright is violated. The most punishment you would likely see for this would be a request to change it to a link and if you ignored that, then they would just remove it because the site owners don't want to be held accountable for possible copyright violations of members.

I understand that, but I believe I credited that pic to member mrclean08, didn't I? Anyway, I understand your point & will make sure to post a link as well.


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Feb 21, 2014 12:52 |  #38

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Have you tried black flocking paper?

No. I've never heard of that til now, but I am Googling! Thanks!


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Feb 21, 2014 16:04 |  #39

HoldyourfireAl wrote in post #16706747 (external link)
I'm so glad that's settled! A friend of mine started teaching me masking in Photoshop CS2 last night. He instructed me using a simple image of a rubber duck. After I was done speaking to him, I decided to use the Magic Wand as he instructed me, but that didn't work out very well.

I went back to Selective Color>Black & I liked the results, except that it darkened the base too much. I have to talk to him again, but I think if I create different layers & mask while doing Selective Color>Black, I can somehow use the Brush Tool & bring back the parts of the base that are getting too dark. I'm kinda confused as to how to do this, but I think I'll figure it out.

Use the burn brush, set to burn shadows. Much easier to get it where you want it.


Edit: And use dodge set to highlights for a whie background, in case you need white some day...



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Feb 21, 2014 17:18 |  #40

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Use the burn brush, set to burn shadows. Much easier to get it where you want it.

Edit: And use dodge set to highlights for a whie background, in case you need white some day...

I'm a newbie with PS, so I will have to look on YouTube to see about what you speak, but thank you!


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Feb 21, 2014 18:32 |  #41

Watching this video:
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Feb 21, 2014 21:29 as a reply to  @ HoldyourfireAl's post |  #42

IMAGE: http://holdyourfireal.smugmug.com/ALs-BOWEN-DESIGNS-STATUE/PHASE-5-FS/Bowen-Designs-Astonishing-X/i-BXsknRM/0/X2/Bowen%20Designs%20Astonishing%20Wolverine%20Statue%20%2810%29-X2.jpg

IMAGE: http://holdyourfireal.smugmug.com/ALs-BOWEN-DESIGNS-STATUE/PHASE-5-FS/Bowen-Designs-Astonishing-X/i-LfjqVPg/1/X2/Bowen%20Designs%20Astonishing%20Wolverine%20Statue%20DB%2010%20copy-X2.jpg

I used the Burn Tool is CS2. Thoughts?

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Feb 23, 2014 00:34 |  #43

My next subject for Dodge & Burn...

IMAGE: http://holdyourfireal.smugmug.com/ALs-BOWEN-DESIGNS-STATUE/PHASE-5-FS/Bowen-Designs-Stryfe-Statue/i-Z8cfXqM/0/X2/IMG_4395a-X2.jpg

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Feb 23, 2014 02:20 |  #44

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Feb 23, 2014 06:04 as a reply to  @ HoldyourfireAl's post |  #45

Looking much better to me. How you feeling about them? Getting closer to what you wanted?


The burn tool is good because you can target shadows / highlights etc so when you have a good amount of contrast between background and subject like on your first you don't need to be too careful. When the subject is less separated you have to take a little more care



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