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Those that consider buying used lenses...Pricing new vs. used

 
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Feb 19, 2014 06:10 |  #61

DreDaze wrote in post #16700056 (external link)
what lens are you trying to buy?

Tokina 16-28 f/2.8

my understanding is that it didn't come into good supply until a couple of years ago. I'm assuming it is relatively new.

I haven't been looking that long but they seem to be in low supply on the used market.

Looked around the web a bit and didn't find much evidence of new Tokina's going on sale.


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Feb 19, 2014 07:59 |  #62

Fernando wrote in post #16699442 (external link)
You're clearly not in sales...

You are correct. Your implied point is also correct. The people I know who are in sales clearly make the big bucks.




  
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Feb 19, 2014 08:48 |  #63

I normally buy used, but there has to be a meaningful difference between new and used prices: I would say at least 30%, and more in some cases. I looked around for over a year for a used 70-300L. The ones that came onto the market were all for sale at around $1200, and the sellers weren't willing to negotiate much. The best offer I had was $1100. At the time, here in Canada, you could get a new one, after rebate, for $1400 (plus tax). So I waited, and was eventually able to find one at a price I considered reasonable (under $1000).

I've bought virtually all my gear used and have not had a problem, but you have to be careful. When you buy used from an individual, either in person or via a forum, there's no guarantee. If the lens is defective, you can't just take it back and swap it for another one. IMHO that risk needs to be reflected in the price you pay. I've also sold a few lenses, and have always taken this into account when setting the price.


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Feb 19, 2014 11:34 |  #64

I buy used whenever possible. Why? I'm indecisive ;)

It's much safer to pick up a lens and know that if you sold it a little while later you'd make all or most of that money right back (I've already bought and sold two lenses at zero loss to me) than to buy new and know you'll lose some cash if you sell.


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Feb 19, 2014 14:29 |  #65

I prefer to buy all my gear new but I have got a few second hand lenses, mainly the cheaper to mid price range and so far I've not had many problems with any of the second hand lenses. I usually would pay up to 75-80% of the full value but no more. Anything with less of a saving will be bought new.


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Feb 21, 2014 13:42 |  #66

BigSky wrote in post #16701141 (external link)
You are correct. Your implied point is also correct. The people I know who are in sales clearly make the big bucks.

My implication was that sales is an "Eat what you kill" kind of job. Someone who just wants to get by can do that (as long as their Sales Manager is OK with it.) Conversely if I want to make more than anyone else in the building, I can.

While you don't have 100% control, market, economy, etc., you can control where you stand relative to the guy in the next cube/region.


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Feb 22, 2014 18:04 |  #67

I've have yet to buy a new lens. There are tons of people willing to accept a 5-10% discount or even pay more for used than new. This makes it very hard for me sometimes to purchase camera equipment, but there are deals out there.




  
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Feb 23, 2014 11:03 |  #68

As others have said, I don't make any money from my photography. I typically buy lenses used. I bought my EF 100mm f/2.8 macro (non L) for $225 off CL a few years ago. I did buy my 17-55 Canon from B&H new, but that was on a special credit deal for $100 off so it made it more of a bargain. I bought my old 40d from Best Buy when it was barely hitting the shelves, paid $1499, and later swore I would never pay full retail for a camera or lens again. Bought my 7D thru the Canon Loyalty program several years ago and saved a ton of money. I've bought Ipods, Ipads, Dell laptops refurbished from the manufacturer. Waiting for the 5D3 show back up on Canon's refurb site so I can buy one on the loyalty program. Same warranty, guaranteed US market body, etc. For $2447 how can you justify buying a new one, or paying $2600-2750 for a used one with 1000's of shutter actuations on it, and no warranty? Those that have had bad luck with refurbs...I believe...were just unlucky. Most refurbished products from large, reputable manufacturers are basically brand new with little or no usage. That said, buying used is tricky, especially site unseen like Ebay. Each to his own, I guess.


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Feb 23, 2014 12:27 as a reply to  @ post 16696944 |  #69

Fortunate that all have been new, except for the 400. Found a reputable member here, and saved almost 40% over new, otherwise I probably would not have been able to get it. That being said, I did get lucky, and bought most of my "new" gear during really good sales.

Seeing so many members getting good used lenses though, I might consider used again with at least 25% savings in the future.


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Feb 23, 2014 13:23 as a reply to  @ Colt4570's post |  #70

my stuff is so old really no choice, plus really dont have the money for all new stuff. just a hobby, i dont make money from it.
my 50mm 1.8 i 60$ attached to a film camera
28-75 tamron ebay 190$ shipped, saved 310 off new
70-300 usm is, needed for kids baseball and overpaid 330$, ive seen it on canon refurb site for under 300, crap
28-70 3.5 canon 35$ and 80$ shipped, have 2 of them.
100 f2 about 300,so saved 200
I get amazon gift cards from work, so will prob get a 35 f2 is or 50mm 1.8 is or sigma when it comes out, new or used.
I just make sure i can return it if it doesnt perform as it should.


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Mar 04, 2014 12:52 |  #71

well, after all the back and forth and negotiating, the Tokina 16-28 that I was looking for dropped 49 bucks to $650 new. I tried to get the used lens owner to go lower (we had agreed on $560) but he wouldn't budge.

I had it in my shopping cart at B&H but couldn't make up my mind on a couple of beefy light stands.

Today I log on to place my order and the lens had dropped another 50 bucks to $599.

Who says procrastination doesn't pay off?


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Mar 04, 2014 13:02 |  #72

as long as more than 30%.... i got my 24-105 for 55% off... so used for me


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Mar 04, 2014 15:12 |  #73

hes gone wrote in post #16734059 (external link)
=he's gone;16734059]well, after all the back and forth and negotiating, the Tokina 16-28 that I was looking for dropped 49 bucks to $650 new. I tried to get the used lens owner to go lower (we had agreed on $560) but he wouldn't budge.

I had it in my shopping cart at B&H but couldn't make up my mind on a couple of beefy light stands.

Today I log on to place my order and the lens had dropped another 50 bucks to $599.

Who says procrastination doesn't pay off?

In a couple of weeks it will be free at that rate! :)


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Mar 04, 2014 15:56 |  #74

Just bid and won a <2 year old 400mm 5.6 that was used on 4 occasions for $860AU (~$770usd). Looks absolutely mint. Should be here by Wednesday next week. Will give it a go at the Melbourne Grand Prix along with my 70-200 2.8 IS II :D


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Mar 04, 2014 19:20 |  #75

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Not to nit-pick, but please allow me to nit-pick. And the rest of have incomes of whatever we want?

No but he is likely either retired or disabled. It doesn't mean he thinks the rest of us just put in a request for a raise when we feel like it. It means his earning potential has reached a ceiling or an end either by choice or by limitation...the money he has saved is the money that he has or will have.


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