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Feb 24, 2014 01:08 |  #9031

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Feb 24, 2014 02:56 as a reply to  @ djlb's post |  #9032

Miss the 600w. Flash Duration is slow? I thought at least 13,000 to match Alien bee.


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Feb 24, 2014 03:05 |  #9033

carlosmay wrote in post #16712076 (external link)
News from Elinchrom:
http://www.elinchrom.c​om …C-Pro-HD-500.html#content (external link)

What did you think of the specs?

having moved to the Profoto B1 I was intrigued what Eli might release to replace the now aging quadra; mine is now for sale.

the new flash looks nice, but doesn't get round the two main issues for me surrounding Eli, the light stand holder and build quality just seen second rate. The Profoto seems so tough it could double as a hammer.

Nice to seem Eli moving to an IGBT trigger circuit.




  
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Feb 24, 2014 05:30 as a reply to  @ djlb's post |  #9034

Is it just me or was the PCB Einstein WAY ahead of it's time?! :lol:


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Feb 24, 2014 07:49 |  #9035

dbeugel wrote in post #16712847 (external link)
Is it just me or was the PCB Einstein WAY ahead of it's time?! :lol:

Good point.




  
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Feb 24, 2014 11:37 as a reply to  @ SamFrench's post |  #9036

Man, I went out today leaving the quadra behind during the 'golden hour' wasn't really golden but whatever and I have to say I find using strobes 1000x easier than shooting natural light. Funny that some people are intimidated by flash, I'm quite the opposite. Maybe I should go back to basics for a few weeks as I think I jumped into the deep end. Either way I went home in a strop :lol: I love my Quadra as much as my wife <3

Does anyone have the same mindset as me? If you don't visualise a shot being perfect you don't bother shooting and just go home?


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Feb 24, 2014 19:37 |  #9037

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Man, I went out today leaving the quadra behind during the 'golden hour' wasn't really golden but whatever and I have to say I find using strobes 1000x easier than shooting natural light. Funny that some people are intimidated by flash, I'm quite the opposite. Maybe I should go back to basics for a few weeks as I think I jumped into the deep end. Either way I went home in a strop :lol: I love my Quadra as much as my wife <3

Does anyone have the same mindset as me? If you don't visualise a shot being perfect you don't bother shooting and just go home?

I work both natural light which I prefer and artificial, but I tend to compliment natural light where possible usually with a Quadra. Natural light has a distinct look that's difficult to replicate with artificial light and generally it's quicker to work with what you have for a impromptu session than to set up a whole lighting rig. It gets more complicated when you have to bring in scrims through.

Horses for courses to be honest.


On another note For those asking about the new Eli HD it's retailing around £550 for the 500 version.


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Feb 25, 2014 02:03 |  #9038

Agree. On location I prefer to use natural light where possible and only supplement with strobes if necessary. Find it much more liberating and spontaneous where your subject is freer to move about. Admittedly my images improved dramatically when I first started using strobes ...their regular use oddly enough gradually gave me the confidence to go full circle and work again with natural light only. I put it down to learning how to just see light as light despite the source it may emanate from.


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Feb 25, 2014 02:44 as a reply to  @ Rai33's post |  #9039

Cheers Guys that's very interesting. I might try the same and bring along a reflector just in case :lol:

I thought the new Eli would be around the £500 mark. The new modes sound interesting to me, especially the delayed mode....Is that an Elinchrom first?


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Feb 25, 2014 03:06 |  #9040

I rather shoot natural light alot less crap i have to carry.


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Feb 25, 2014 05:00 as a reply to  @ abbadon31's post |  #9041

Now Scott that did surprise me!!! My issue with only natural light is the dynamic range side of things. With the Quadra I can control everything I want. I'm talking just total natural light here, no 5 in 1 reflector or anything! One thing I do prefer about the natural light though, is what you can do with it in processing, it seems to work with so many different styles much better.


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Feb 25, 2014 09:42 |  #9042

Here is the thing ambient is like the worlds largest softbox. I refuse to use reflectors and scrims, so I have to use flash to balance out the darks/shadows. So it can be the background or the subject i might be lighting or both.


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Feb 25, 2014 09:45 as a reply to  @ abbadon31's post |  #9043

Good point!! Out of interest I have the Quadra 18cm reflector, wondering if you had any examples of using either the 18cm reflector or the standard one that ships with the heads??


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Feb 25, 2014 09:58 |  #9044

Here is with a stock reflector on a quadra

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Feb 25, 2014 10:05 |  #9045

Great!!!!!! :) thanks Scott, I also got two of the 90 degree 24cm Varistar reflectors, so I'm going to see how they rock outside too :)


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