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To keep the 135 or not to keep.. That is the question

 
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Feb 24, 2014 06:56 |  #1

So Ive been deciding in the last couple of weeks if I should buy the 70-200mk 2 or the 24-70 mk ll. I decided i was buying the 70-200 because i was missing important shots during weddings and had very limited space to use the 135. Problem is, i love the IQ of the 135 and i would hate to see it go so I narrowed my choices to these two options,

A) buy the Tamron 70-200 2.8 VC and keep my 135mm. Ive been doing research on these lens and to my surprise it rivals the canon pretty good.

B) buy the canon 70-200 mk ll and sell the 135mm.

Its a hard decision and Im going back and forward. If anyone has had any experience with the Tamron i would appreciate some feedback. Also Im open to suggestions.


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Feb 24, 2014 07:02 |  #2

why not the 85/1.2?


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Feb 24, 2014 07:13 |  #3

mike_311 wrote in post #16712945 (external link)
why not the 85/1.2?

I shoot weddings so i need the versatility of a zoom, Ive missed shots due to the fixed focal length. On the other hand i love shooting portraits with the 135.. So the dilemma is shoul I buy the tamron and keep my 135 or is the canon that good that i wouldnt need the 135mm.

PS. Excuse my bad english :)


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Feb 24, 2014 07:40 |  #4

Buy a 70-200 2.8. Keep the 135L.




  
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Feb 24, 2014 08:27 |  #5

Beside the dilemma, how much do you think you will switch to the 135L even if you had a 70-200?

Will you constantly use the 70-200 and the 135 will stay in the bag? If this you think will be true, than selling the 135 will be an option.
If you still think you will use the 135, maybe not as much, but still, than selling the 135 is not an option.

Regarding those answers, and depends on your funds, you will know what to do.

It should also be noted, that the tamron lacks IQ at the longer end of the zoom compared to the canon or even the 135L. So if you do look for a lens to shoot at the longer end, especially if you might use it wider open more often, than I suggest go with the canon version, even if it cost more. Its worth it.


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Feb 24, 2014 08:31 |  #6

I'll bet that once you get a 70-200 2.8 you won't hardly use the 135 f2. At that point, you might as well sell it. So that's in favor of the Canon. The other question is how good is the Tamron? If it is great, I still wonder if you will use the 135 f2 anymore. If it's not up to your expectations, then you'll regret your decision. I own the 135 f2 but don't own a 70-200 f2.8. If it were me, I'd go with the Canon.


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Feb 24, 2014 08:31 |  #7

I would sell the 135. Doesnt the 70-200 v2 rival the 135 in IQ? Thats what i have read. It comes pretty darn close. Or keep the 135L ! And pickup a used 70-200 2.8 IS... decisions. Decisions...




  
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Feb 24, 2014 08:46 |  #8

milleniumking wrote in post #16713130 (external link)
I would sell the 135. Doesnt the 70-200 v2 rival the 135 in IQ? Thats what i have read. It comes pretty darn close. Or keep the 135L ! And pickup a used 70-200 2.8 IS... decisions. Decisions...

The 70-200 and 135 both give similar IQ in general.
The main difference is the boken, CA and colour rendering of the lens. This why the 135 is considered a "magic lens" and excels and the reason many pick both of the budget is possible. The fact that it also weight half of the 70-200, is another little perk. It also take a 1.4x and becomes a 200 F/2.8 without any noticeable IQ loss.


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Feb 24, 2014 09:02 |  #9

When the 70-200 2.8 IS II came out many regular posters to the 135L thread sold their 135L's to get the new zoom which gave comparable results. Over time almost all of them repurchased the 135L. I think that tells us a couple of things. The zoom is that good and might be your best option. But there is something special about the 135L on a full frame camera. Perhaps you get the canon zoom and repurchase the 135L when you come back around to it.




  
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Feb 24, 2014 09:09 |  #10

The 70-200 f/2.8L II does rival the 135 in IQ (external link). The 135 has 3 significant advantages over the 70-200 f/2.8L II:

  • f/2.0
  • Size
  • Cost

So, if you have a 70-200 and the 135 in your bag at weddings, what role will the 135 play? (I suspect posed shots when you have the space). How many of those shots will you use f/2.0? Don't forget, even though the 135 at f/2.0 provides amazing separation at f/2.0, when you have the space you can get similar results with the 70-200 by moving: camera, subject background (even though the perspective changes).

Alternatively, consider your own work, How significant has f/2.0 been to you in the past?

Size doesn't seem to be an issue for you (you are considering keeping a 135 and a 70-200).

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Feb 24, 2014 09:16 |  #11

hairy_moth wrote in post #16713208 (external link)
The 70-200 f/2.8L II does rival the 135 in IQ (external link). The 135 has 3 significant advantages over the 70-200 f/2.8L II:
  • f/2.0
  • Size
  • Cost

So, if you have a 70-200 and the 135 in your bag at weddings, what role will the 135 play? (I suspect posed shots when you have the space). How many of those shots will you use f/2.0? Don't forget, even though the 135 at f/2.0 provides amazing separation at f/2.0, when you have the space you can get similar results with the 70-200 by moving: camera, subject background (even though the perspective changes).

Alternatively, consider your own work, How significant has f/2.0 been to you in the past?

Size doesn't seem to be an issue for you (you are considering keeping a 135 and a 70-200).

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Feb 24, 2014 09:25 |  #12

hairy_moth wrote in post #16713208 (external link)
The 70-200 f/2.8L II does rival the 135 in IQ (external link). The 135 has 3 significant advantages over the 70-200 f/2.8L II:
  • f/2.0
  • Size
  • Cost

So, if you have a 70-200 and the 135 in your bag at weddings, what role will the 135 play? (I suspect posed shots when you have the space). How many of those shots will you use f/2.0? Don't forget, even though the 135 at f/2.0 provides amazing separation at f/2.0, when you have the space you can get similar results with the 70-200 by moving: camera, subject background (even though the perspective changes).

Alternatively, consider your own work, How significant has f/2.0 been to you in the past?

Size doesn't seem to be an issue for you (you are considering keeping a 135 and a 70-200).

The 70-200 would be mainly for wedding purpose, as I said I love shooting portraits, is what I enjoy most from photography and the results the 135 are incredible. As much as I love it its difficult to use it in weddings, if I had another ff body and a 35 1.4 it would be another story but right now i cant afford it and I dont like much the idea of carrying 2 bodies (maybe in a future). Thats why I started the thread, because I love my 135 but I need a 70-200.


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Feb 24, 2014 09:32 |  #13

Btw I sold the 35 1.4 in my signature a year ago.. i have to update it haha


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Feb 24, 2014 09:32 |  #14

Yamatama.
You are not a drummer are you? The reason asking is I have a drummer friend that has both a Yamaha And Tama Kit. His nickname is.........YamaTama.
Now on to the real issue.
If I could only keep one of my lenses, it would have to be the Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L IS Mark II. Period. That is how much I love it. Sharp, crisp, wonderful IS.
The images it captures on both my 7D and new 5D Mark III is worth every dime to me.
However I can feel your passion for your 135 L. It is hard to give up on an old trusted friend like that.
Since I do not have real world experience with the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 VC, I will leave that one out.
You have two possible options with the Canon 70-200's

1. Keep your trusty 135 and start saving for the f/2.8 L IS Mark II.

2. Canon 70-200 f/4 L IS.

Yes f/4 L IS. Since you have the 24-105 f/4 L IS you know what f/4 does and how it handles. You would then be increasing the range and versatility of f/4 thought the 105-200 range. Also the price of the Canon 70-200 f/4 L IS is comparable to the Tamron, allowing you to keep your old friend 135L in your bag when low light situations arise. Just a thought.


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Feb 24, 2014 09:35 |  #15

At or near MSRP, I'd likely go with the Tamron the IQ is close and the AF is good, I'd consider it one of those 90% of the lens for half the cost deals. If you can get a 70-200 on big sales like there was in December, then I'd say L Mk II; it is a better lens and when the cost difference is mitigated it is much more attractive.

I love my 135, the 70-200 L IS Mk III however does see more action than I originally anticipated. I shoot lots of sports, and having the zoom when I'm in a fixed position or not moving as fast as the play, make the world go round for most events, in extreme low light the 135 still comes out though. Where the 135 sees more use is in shooting portraits or sometimes in family situations where I know I'll be able to move around. As a parallel to weddings, which I don't shoot so throw in a bag of salt to this comment, I could see the 70-200 being handy during ceremonies and receptions, while the 135 might come out for the group and portrait work, where the 70-200 would still be capable, but the same. Only you know how you work in those variations on a situation.

I do keep the 135, but in adding the 70-200 I also was able to take advantage of one of those ties for lowest price deals, plus rebates, plus gift cards just after the holidays; and I have an f4 version to list that it's replacing, once that is done, the net cost makes the justification a different game. And cost is ultimately a factor. If you're open to used, there's also the IS MkI and the non-IS 2.8s from Canon that are optical winners. And keep an eye on the refurbished sites as well (Canon, B&H and Adorama all have Refurb sections with good reputations)


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