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What to get for 5Dmk3-50f1.4, 85f1.8 or 135 f2?

 
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Feb 24, 2014 14:27 |  #1

I was wondering what I should get to add to my 5Dmk3 and 24-105f4. As I have never used primes I thought it would be a good idea to start with one now. I will be using this as a walk around lens on occasions, possibly some "busking" musicians, mime artists etc

Ok, I suppose I want to play around a bit and see what creative opportunities I can take advantage of. Your suggestions would be great please- I have no idea which one to get.


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Feb 24, 2014 16:04 |  #2

Get all three... start with the 50 1.4


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Feb 24, 2014 16:07 |  #3

If you define it as walkaround the 50 is the closest. I'd still recommend the 85 1.8 for more fun. Its a little long for walkaround but you can do some fun stuff if you back up and use the shallow DOF.




  
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Feb 24, 2014 16:52 |  #4

Heya,

Sigma 35mm F1.4
Sigma 85mm F1.4 or Canon EF 85mm F1.8 (cheap)
Canon EF 24mm F1.4L
Canon EF 24-70 F2.8L MKII

Walk around lenses are better when they're wider. If you want to do portraits, get a longer lens, like 85~135mm. The environment on street shoots is as important as the subject, as it gives them context.

But before you go spending more money, I must say, for someone who just bought a $4k setup, this is an odd question as I would expect you know photography well to buy into such a camera. Not trying to be rude or snarky. But the 5D3 is vast overkill for this purpose, unless you just have a ton of disposable cash and wanted the best prosumer camera before hitting up Canon's ton tier cameras (which the 5D3 is not). A 6D + prime or walk around zoom would have been more economical. I'll get off my soapbox though. Enjoy your photographs!

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Feb 24, 2014 22:20 |  #5

For sure the 50/1.4. In my opinion a "standard" prime is the best way to introduce yourself to the usefulness of primes. I got a 50/1.8 as a gift from my dad when I had my 20D and rarely ever used it with the 20D or my T2i because it was such a specific purpose lens to me. I bought a 35/2 for the T2i and it became my go-to lens for everything (56mm equivalent) and now I shoot mostly with primes.


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Feb 24, 2014 23:07 |  #6

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Heya,

Sigma 35mm F1.4
Sigma 85mm F1.4 or Canon EF 85mm F1.8 (cheap)
Canon EF 24mm F1.4L
Canon EF 24-70 F2.8L MKII

Walk around lenses are better when they're wider. If you want to do portraits, get a longer lens, like 85~135mm. The environment on street shoots is as important as the subject, as it gives them context.

But before you go spending more money, I must say, for someone who just bought a $4k setup, this is an odd question as I would expect you know photography well to buy into such a camera. Not trying to be rude or snarky. But the 5D3 is vast overkill for this purpose, unless you just have a ton of disposable cash and wanted the best prosumer camera before hitting up Canon's ton tier cameras (which the 5D3 is not). A 6D + prime or walk around zoom would have been more economical. I'll get off my soapbox though. Enjoy your photographs!

Very best,

No offended taken, there is a thread in another section on my Issues with a Nikon D600 and my move across to Canon. After using a Nikon D3, D3s for years for primarily wildlife and landscape photography I relocated and found that I was no longer able to do as much wildlife photography as I used to. I downsized to a D600, sold off a few long lenses and then the issues started. I have now switched to Canon and traded in the D600 and lens or the 5Dmk3 and 24-105.

I guess in a way, as I stated, I am really keen to have a little creative "fun". I found that when I had the pro bodies (Nikon D3s and years ago the Canon 1Dmk3) I would not really carry them around much and so missed many good photo opportunities I guess.

"A ton of disposable cash"? Yeh, I wish it were true ....:(. :D


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Feb 25, 2014 00:04 |  #7

^If you want a camera you'd be more inclined to carry around everywhere, you should look into a Fuji or other mirrorless system. Since I bought the X-E1 I've only used my 6D for paid work/portraits, and even then I still use the Fuji a bit. The IQ from it is something else and I love the look and feel of the body for out and about stuff, I barely notice it's on me and the best part is, neither does anyone else ;)


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Feb 25, 2014 00:29 |  #8

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16715324 (external link)
^If you want a camera you'd be more inclined to carry around everywhere, you should look into a Fuji or other mirrorless system. Since I bought the X-E1 I've only used my 6D for paid work/portraits, and even then I still use the Fuji a bit. The IQ from it is something else and I love the look and feel of the body for out and about stuff, I barely notice it's on me and the best part is, neither does anyone else ;)

Thx, but I was hoping for advice relating to the specific question about prime lenses. I am perfectly happy to walk about with the 5Dmnk3.


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Feb 25, 2014 00:52 |  #9

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Thx, but I was hoping for advice relating to the specific question about prime lenses. I am perfectly happy to walk about with the 5Dmnk3.

Heya,

Whatever you do, stay away from that EF 50mm F1.4. You'll bang your head against the wall with it's autofocus depending on your copy variation, and it's softness at F1.4 will leave you wondering why you bothered with a prime that's not very sharp at it's widest aperture (which is it's selling point after all). I know that's a blanket statement, it's not a terrible lens, but since you're rolling a 5D3, I imagine you want near top-tier quality lenses that lack the most mundane issues that this hit or miss lens tends to have.

If you have the money and want to prime it up:

Sigma 35mm F1.4
Sigma 85mm F1.4
Canon 135mm F2

If you want to reduce footprint:

Tamron 24-70 F2.8 VC
Canon 135mm F2

or

Sigma 35mm F1.4
Sigma 85mm F1.4

Depends on budget really.

This is based on you saying you wanted to shoot what sounds like street performers. That means wide angle is a good thing for context. Wide aperture for isolation and creativity. And something on the longer side, but not too long to be "a long lens" so that you can hone in on faces or simply allow for more distance between you and the subject. All of course in ambient light.

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Feb 25, 2014 00:54 |  #10

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Get all three... start with the 50 1.4

haha, my thoughts exactly!


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Feb 25, 2014 00:55 |  #11

I have a 50mm F/1.4 and only use it for portrait shooting in "studio environment" - especially when I want a shallow DOF. For walking around I find my 24-105 F/4 sufficient for 80% of the time and for the other 20% I got a 70-200 F/2.8 (Tamron) in my bag.
I don't like swapping lenses all the time while "walking around". As already said by others: street shots need context so you don't need a fast aperture. And if there is not enough light I rather bump my ISO than opening up my aperture (DOF issues) and with the 5DIII I can go fairly high without loosing too much IQ.


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Feb 25, 2014 01:38 |  #12

Broomer wrote in post #16714236 (external link)
Get all three... start with the 50 1.4

+1..


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Feb 25, 2014 01:41 |  #13

MalVeauX wrote in post #16715393 (external link)
Heya,

Whatever you do, stay away from that EF 50mm F1.4. You'll bang your head against the wall with it's autofocus depending on your copy variation, and it's softness at F1.4 will leave you wondering why you bothered with a prime that's not very sharp at it's widest aperture (which is it's selling point after all). I know that's a blanket statement, it's not a terrible lens, but since you're rolling a 5D3, I imagine you want near top-tier quality lenses that lack the most mundane issues that this hit or miss lens tends to have.

If you have the money and want to prime it up:

Sigma 35mm F1.4
Sigma 85mm F1.4
Canon 135mm F2

If you want to reduce footprint:

Tamron 24-70 F2.8 VC
Canon 135mm F2

or

Sigma 35mm F1.4
Sigma 85mm F1.4

Depends on budget really.

This is based on you saying you wanted to shoot what sounds like street performers. That means wide angle is a good thing for context. Wide aperture for isolation and creativity. And something on the longer side, but not too long to be "a long lens" so that you can hone in on faces or simply allow for more distance between you and the subject. All of course in ambient light.

Very best,

I disagree. I've shot with a couple of different 50/1.4's and both were plenty sharp on my 6D. I also think the focus issue with it is over-blown. The only reason I don't own one is it renders very similarly to my Yashica ML 50/1.4, but I like the colors a little better out of my Yashica.

And to the OP; I realize that, I'm just passing my opinion, you don't realize how handy a smaller camera is until you own one, I used to cary my 6D everywhere too ;) I did give you my advice on which prime I'd recommend earlier in the thread.

The Sigma 50/1.4 is also a great choice and is probably going to around for really cheap in the next few months since the new Art model is coming out. Since your body has MA (micro adjust) I wouldn't worry about focus issues too much.

If you really just want to get your toes into it on the cheap you can't go wrong with the 40mm pancake. The great thing about that lens is that if you decide you want a nicer prime later on the 40mm would still have it's place since it's so small.


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Feb 25, 2014 02:00 |  #14

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #16715478 (external link)
I disagree. I've shot with a couple of different 50/1.4's and both were plenty sharp on my 6D. I also think the focus issue with it is over-blown. The only reason I don't own one is it renders very similarly to my Yashica ML 50/1.4, but I like the colors a little better out of my Yashica.

And to the OP; I realize that, I'm just passing my opinion, you don't realize how handy a smaller camera is until you own one, I used to cary my 6D everywhere too ;) I did give you my advice on which prime I'd recommend earlier in the thread.

The Sigma 50/1.4 is also a great choice and is probably going to around for really cheap in the next few months since the new Art model is coming out. Since your body has MA (micro adjust) I wouldn't worry about focus issues too much.

If you really just want to get your toes into it on the cheap you can't go wrong with the 40mm pancake. The great thing about that lens is that if you decide you want a nicer prime later on the 40mm would still have it's place since it's so small.

My apologies, I read each post in isolation :o

I agree about the small camera - I used to use my wife's Nikon D3100 quite often. The only problem is that she will also now want to switch to Canon as well!:eek:


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Feb 25, 2014 02:23 |  #15

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My apologies, I read each post in isolation :o

I agree about the small camera - I used to use my wife's Nikon D3100 quite often. The only problem is that she will also now want to switch to Canon as well!:eek:

No sweat ;)

And nothing wrong with that if she does, the EOS 100D is the smallest DSLR on the market ;) The new G1X 2 is also one heck of a camera.


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