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Feb 25, 2014 10:33 |  #16

you can do a charge back through your CC company if you do not receive it.


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Feb 25, 2014 10:46 |  #17

Ta2edmom wrote in post #16716270 (external link)
you can do a charge back through your CC company if you do not receive it.

It's extremely unlikely (though not impossible) that the PayPal gift money was charged to a credit card. That would defeat the purpose of using the gift option, because the sender has to pay the PayPal fee if they fund with a CC.

OP almost certainly funded with PayPal balance or savings/checking account, and has no recourse whatsoever. The whole point of doing a LEGITIMATE PayPal transaction is to have nice things like buyer protection and a CC chargeback option.




  
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Feb 25, 2014 10:55 |  #18

Savings of $5-6 is not enough for me to not use regular paypal. At first it was saving $5-6 but not you are out $180.


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Feb 25, 2014 10:57 |  #19

gusnjax wrote in post #16716036 (external link)
Here is the original message he sent me:

Originally Posted by xxxxxx
I have a excellent condition 430 EXII that includes manual, receipt, original box and accessories from B&H. I can do $180 including shipping and PayPal fees. I never encountered any problems while using it with my 5D II. Feel free to give me a call or text xxx-xxx-xxxx.

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Bleeped out his number.

Since the seller didn't ask for the gift option, does that imply that you sent gift and reduced the purchase price by 3%?

I know money is money, but I'd rather have a higher level of peace of mind than try to save $5.40 on a $180 item.


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Feb 25, 2014 11:15 |  #20

Yeah since he said in the original message that included pp fees, I wouldn't have sent it gift at all. I'm kind of confused as to why you would go ahead and do that after he included a price that had the pp fees.


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Feb 25, 2014 11:26 |  #21

I think this is the same board member that I had contact some time ago about buying a backup/spare 7D.

He would respond instantly to PMs, had a valid website, with a posted email address and telephone number in NY. We agreed to a price, but he would never answer the phone when I called.

PM'd a couple of days later, (you never know, things happen), and asked again. He said he had sold the 7D, but had a 6D, again replying very promptly to PMs. Once again though, would never answer the phone. That was a red flag for me, and I never sent any money.

I think you're out the money, sorry. I do think that if you don't see anything within the next 24 hours, you should out the member, so other people don't get burnt.




  
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Feb 25, 2014 11:28 |  #22
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KirkS518 wrote in post #16716073 (external link)
3 Posts, member for 2 weeks (as of today), and 2 of those posts were in response to WTB ads. Honestly, I think you should write this off as a lesson learned, and next time a seller wants it as gift, pay it the regular way, but add 3%. That way the seller ends up with the same amount as if you sent it gift, and you retain your protection.

You should remove his name, or the mods will remove this thread.

Ding, ding...correct. Paying with PayPal gifts isn't that bad if you know who you are dealing with. Still, new members without a good selling and posting records, this is a bad sign. Was his price so irresistible? Are people looking out for that ridiculous lowball deal and don't exercise the necessary precautions???


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Feb 25, 2014 11:39 |  #23
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sarch99 wrote in post #16716190 (external link)
According to what you quoted the seller as saying, he didn't ask for Paypal gift.

"Here is the original message he sent me:

Originally Posted by xxxxxx
I have a excellent condition 430 EXII that includes manual, receipt, original box and accessories from B&H. I can do $180 including shipping and PayPal fees......"

I know this won't help you get your item, but I'm curious as to why you used Paypal gift option. I hope the flash arrives soon. I can pretty much guarantee Paypal won't help you. I mistakenly sent $200 to a stranger by using an incorrect email address. I realized it within minutes, and the recipient had already accepted the payment. Paypal just said sorry.


More than likely the OP is trying to save few dollars and the seller decided to accept PP gift.

BTW, I receive PP gifts as payment all the time in another message board selling aquarium plants. The dollar amount is generally from $20 to $50. Of course, I have to be a really bad person to scam someone over some aquarium plants...heheheh


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Feb 25, 2014 11:44 |  #24

TooManyShots wrote in post #16716461 (external link)
More than likely the OP is trying to save few dollars and the seller decided to accept PP gift.

BTW, I receive PP gifts as payment all the time in another message board selling aquarium plants. The dollar amount is generally from $20 to $50. Of course, I have to be a really bad person to scam someone over some aquarium plants...heheheh

I've been scammed over childrens clothing lol


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Feb 25, 2014 11:48 |  #25

#1. You paying via PayPal gift, PayPal will not help you in anyway.
#2. If you paid via PayPal gift, no address is provided to seller. So you had to provide him your address manually.
#3. Since its PayPal gift, there is no option for you to enter tracking number in the transaction since it wasn't for goods.


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Feb 25, 2014 12:01 |  #26

Paying via Paypal gift is just a terrible idea when buying anything over the internet, but especially when it comes to expensive photography equipment. I''ve bought/sold guitars and golf clubs on other forums and a lot of websites have policies where sellers are not even allowed to ask for Paypal gift payments. I think that is the way to go, but you never know with a fool and his money.




  
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Feb 25, 2014 14:48 |  #27

I think it's unfortunate that the majority of FS listings require an extra percentage to use regular PayPal. I wish that POTN would prohibit this practice.

(In other words I agree with the poster immediately above.)


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Feb 25, 2014 17:32 |  #28

just filed a paypal claim for an item purchased on February 7 (paid by regular paypal). I had posted a WTB listing in the "Classifieds: Buy" section of this forum. The prospective seller contacted me via PM with an offer to sell.

Said prospective seller was (is) a new member at PotN (as am I - pretty much - though I have dozens of posts over 5 or 6 months, and numerous purchases). Seller is on Staten Island, NYC, NY and had about 3 posts (no telling how many PM's &/or WTB's he harvested). Seller also provided a working phone number - as we had a pre-sale phone conversation. After paying Seller, he never again answered my numerous phone calls. NOT ONCE.

He promised to notify when shipped - NEVER HAPPENED.
He promised to provide tracking number - NEVER HAPPENED.
However - tracking number did appear in paypal history - BUT - USPS says item never delivered as they have no record of receiving it for shipment.

Anyone curious about this seller, send me a PM and I will privately identify the seller. I'm not sure doing so publicly is appropriate.

Bottom Line = Caveat Emptor!! and ALSO - nixnay on the PayPal Gift.

Despite the assertions of my CFO/better-half, gear purchases are NOT GIFTS. PayPal gifts leave the buyer with no recourse via PayPal - which is NOT a good idea (if you're the buyer).




  
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Feb 25, 2014 19:06 |  #29

daleg wrote in post #16717331 (external link)
Anyone curious about this seller, send me a PM and I will privately identify the seller. I'm not sure doing so publicly is appropriate.


I'd say that once someone shows themselves to be a scam artist they should be publicly identified along with any other possible way to ID them (as it isn't difficult to obtain another user ID).




  
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Feb 25, 2014 19:36 |  #30

Gusnjax I hope I am wrong, but I think you just learned a $180 lesson. Threads like this need to be shared and viewed by all. Always use regular paypal and always fund with a credit card, that is the only way to be protected from those that want to scam us.


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