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Feb 25, 2014 19:43 |  #31

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I think it's unfortunate that the majority of FS listings require an extra percentage to use regular PayPal. I wish that POTN would prohibit this practice.

(In other words I agree with the poster immediately above.)

i doubt they'll do that...they've said they won't

the thing i wonder is if it's possible to have a member have to have a certain number of posts/wait a certain number of days to get in to the WTB ads...it's the obvious place to go for a scammer...it'd be nice to make it a bit more difficult for them to reply to ads...


sorry to hear you used gift...i've never used it to pay for anything, it just doesn't seem worth it

i don't think a working phone number really means much...can't you buy pay as you go phones at 7-11 nowadays?


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Feb 25, 2014 22:57 |  #32

Contact your bank and tell them about the transaction. You can say it was an unauthorized transaction. They could do a charge back from paypal and paypal would go after the "seller."


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Feb 25, 2014 23:54 |  #33

First, I don't let PayPal (or anyone else) have access to my bank accounts. I learned this through experience from a few unpleasant experiences with PayPal. I pay using a credit card, so if a mistake is made or fraud attempted I can dispute the charge without being out-of-pocket for any money while it is being resolved. Plus I get rewards points, which helps offset any fees.

Second, I only send money as a gift to people I personally know and trust. Everyone else either accepts it as a payment for merchandise or takes a walk. I will consider adding the 3% PayPal fee to my purchase price if I think the deal is worth it.

Third, I do not see anything in PayPal's terms and conditions that say a money sent to a friend or family cannot be reversed. Fraud is not limited to strangers or transfers of merchandise. I would contact PayPal asking them to reverse the transaction and if they refused, file a claim with your credit card issuer or bank. Even if PayPal decides not to help, your issuer or bank will not ignore a claim of fraud.

Forth, agreeing to sell an item and accepting money but not delivering is fraud, and when the Internet is used to negotiate the sale and make payment, this becomes a federal crime of interstate wire fraud, prosecuted by the US Department of Justice and investigated by the FBI. I don't know what the thresholds are, if any, but if all else fails it doesn't take a lot of effort to make a phone appointment to discuss your case with your state's District Attorney's office. Even if they don't prosecute they might help you identify the real person behind the scam so you can consider other action.

Fifth and finally, post negative feedback identifying the scammer to help others avoid future problems.


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Feb 26, 2014 00:02 |  #34

you're not allowed to post negative feedback here...


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Feb 26, 2014 00:53 |  #35

DreDaze wrote in post #16718129 (external link)
you're not allowed to post negative feedback here...

really? man this place is...odd...


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Feb 26, 2014 04:36 |  #36

The Gift thing is beyond ridiculous at this point. So many stories of people getting screwed yet so many people who can't loosen their grip on that 3%.

I've had numerous people pay me with Gift without even asking for it. They are just being "nice", like the OP in this case, apparently. I just sold a lens and the buyer said he would send Gift payment. I had to insist that he did not.


  
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Feb 26, 2014 05:16 |  #37

mpix345 wrote in post #16718489 (external link)
The Gift thing is beyond ridiculous at this point. So many stories of people getting screwed yet so many people who can't loosen their grip on that 3%.

I've had numerous people pay me with Gift without even asking for it. They are just being "nice", like the OP in this case, apparently. I just sold a lens and the buyer said he would send Gift payment. I had to insist that he did not.

the WTB section is ridiculous also.

So many times I hear about people getting flakey people and/or screwed in there. stay away.


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Feb 26, 2014 08:42 |  #38

hang your cross wrote in post #16718032 (external link)
Contact your bank and tell them about the transaction. You can say it was an unauthorized transaction. They could do a charge back from paypal and paypal would go after the "seller."

Right, and when the bank investigators find out that you lied, they close your accounts and possibly report you to law enforcement.

Got any more brilliant advice? How about this: DON'T USE PAYPAL GIFT IF IT ISN'T A GIFT.




  
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Feb 26, 2014 09:28 |  #39

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Right, and when the bank investigators find out that you lied, they close your accounts and possibly report you to law enforcement.

Got any more brilliant advice? How about this: DON'T USE PAYPAL GIFT IF IT ISN'T A GIFT.

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Feb 26, 2014 09:33 |  #40

Talley wrote in post #16718534 (external link)
the WTB section is ridiculous also.

So many times I hear about people getting flakey people and/or screwed in there. stay away.

I'd think it would be in the best interest of the owners of this site to put an end to transactions which use paypal gift payments. Sooner or later someone is going to get screwed and come after the website owners with a lawsuit. That lawsuit may or may not succeed, but it could still be costly to defend.




  
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Feb 26, 2014 09:38 |  #41

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I'd think it would be in the best interest of the owners of this site to put an end to transactions which use paypal gift payments. Sooner or later someone is going to get screwed and come after the website owners with a lawsuit. That lawsuit may or may not succeed, but it could still be costly to defend.

how can they get rid of it? people send PM's all the time...it's impossible to get rid of...the best they can hope to do is inform the users

and i'm sorry, but they'd have no responsibility in a lawsuit...it's like someone suing craigslist because they got scammed


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Feb 26, 2014 09:43 as a reply to  @ groundloop's post |  #42

Everyone use some common sense would be the best fix. IMHO



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Feb 26, 2014 10:14 |  #43

hang your cross wrote in post #16718968 (external link)
:rolleyes:

Come back when you're older and you've learned to use your words.




  
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Feb 26, 2014 12:45 |  #44

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Come back when you're older and you've learned to use your words.

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Feb 26, 2014 13:38 as a reply to  @ hang your cross's post |  #45

The OP chose to scam PayPal out of their fee by using the gift option to pay for goods. In turn the seller scammed the OP. Poetic justice.




  
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