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Feb 27, 2014 17:47 |  #1

Sold my last slr to help with school, and now that I have a kid on the way I would like to get a full frame slr again. Kicking around the 6D but kind of torn. I've owned rebels, 20d, 30d, 40d, 50d, 5D2, and Nikon D700. I also have spent a lot of time with the 5Dc. To me it seemed as if the 40d, d700, and 5Dc just had something with them that gave me very pleasing images. I've taken great shots with all of them, but for some reason when I look back in my archives, Im instantly drawn to those images taken with the 5Dc.

Can anyone explain this? I can't post files that show you why, or put it in words what is different.


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Feb 27, 2014 17:56 |  #2

I don't know about the Nikon but the Canons most likely the absence of anti-aliasing filter and in the case of the 5Dc the 12 bit processor giving you those 'richer' blacks...

Look at the GIF in this page:

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You might wish to read the whole page... It is quite interesting!


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Feb 27, 2014 18:01 |  #3

MakisM1 wrote in post #16722710 (external link)
I don't know about the Nikon but the Canons most likely the absence of anti-aliasing filter and in the case of the 5Dc the 12 bit processor giving you those 'richer' blacks...

Look at the GIF in this page:

http://www.earthboundl​ight.com …-raw-12-bit-part-two.html (external link)

You might wish to read the whole page... It is quite interesting!

That looks to be a good read, Ill have to check it out when I have some more time.


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Feb 27, 2014 18:29 |  #4
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stevo8 wrote in post #16722700 (external link)
Sold my last slr to help with school, and now that I have a kid on the way I would like to get a full frame slr again. Kicking around the 6D but kind of torn. I've owned rebels, 20d, 30d, 40d, 50d, 5D2, and Nikon D700. I also have spent a lot of time with the 5Dc. To me it seemed as if the 40d, d700, and 5Dc just had something with them that gave me very pleasing images. I've taken great shots with all of them, but for some reason when I look back in my archives, Im instantly drawn to those images taken with the 5Dc.

Can anyone explain this? I can't post files that show you why, or put it in words what is different.

Once you use full frame you just can't look back, eh?

I can relate.


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Feb 27, 2014 18:41 as a reply to  @ Alveric's post |  #5

I have used a 5DII and a 5DIII. They are both great cameras but for the money I am very pleased with my 6D.


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Feb 27, 2014 19:13 |  #6

Most likely you had thinner DOF with your 5D and the lenses you used. Have you ever tried an f1.2 or f1.4 prime on the 40D? You would have the same effect.


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Feb 27, 2014 19:21 |  #7

It wasn't the depth of field as the sensor size is about the same on the 5D2 and basically the Nikon as well. I loved the 40D for a crop. Much preferred it to my 50d.


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Feb 27, 2014 19:37 as a reply to  @ stevo8's post |  #8

It's interesting how you pull out the 40D as a great crop, because I always felt the 30D could produce gorgeous photos - and certainly, the relatively large photosites could have been a reason for that.

But, back to your question, and I don't think there's anything "intangible" at all, regarding the differences in camera bodies.

Each body coming onto the market these days is better and better at doing more and more (or so it seems), so if I were you, I'd simply work out what you want to photograph, which lens(es) will do that best - for your budget. Then, go out and buy those items, plus a flash, and get shooting again!

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Feb 27, 2014 20:01 |  #9

That intangible thing is called "je ne sais quoi"

Hard to say if one model of Canon has it, while another models does not, as nobody ever seems to write about it.


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Feb 27, 2014 20:03 |  #10

stevo8 wrote in post #16722700 (external link)
What is that intangible thing that some bodies seem to have?

I have thought and thought and thought about how to answer this question, and I have not been able to come up with anything. I guess that to me, every quality that a camera body has can be quantified, measured, and accurately articulated, if one tries hard enough and long enough to reduce them to things that can be quantified and explained.


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Feb 27, 2014 21:34 |  #11

Tom Reichner wrote in post #16722956 (external link)
I have thought and thought and thought about how to answer this question, and I have not been able to come up with anything. I guess that to me, every quality that a camera body has can be quantified, measured, and accurately articulated, if one tries hard enough and long enough to reduce them to things that can be quantified and explained.

I feel like there's a unmeasurable for some reason though.


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Feb 27, 2014 21:36 |  #12

stevo8 wrote in post #16723134 (external link)
I feel like there's a unmeasurable for some reason though.

I agree with Tom Reichner. It's all quantifiable. Speed, durability, iso capability etc. what I unmeasurable in an inanimate object?


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Feb 27, 2014 21:44 |  #13

bragging rights too? :P


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Feb 28, 2014 00:04 |  #14

Frodge wrote in post #16723138 (external link)
I agree with Tom Reichner. It's all quantifiable. Speed, durability, iso capability etc. what I unmeasurable in an inanimate object?

Subjective validation, and confirmation bias? :)


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Feb 28, 2014 00:15 |  #15

GregDunn wrote in post #16723354 (external link)
Subjective validation, and confirmation bias? :)

AKA the speaker cable industry in a nutshell.

For me there's no one factor, it's a sort of a sum of the parts. If it's always just immediately responsive, has good viewfinder and a metering system that you've been able to get used to and be comfortable with and a focusing system that doesn't leave you guessing it's well on its way there. My EOS 3 and 1D Mark II definitely had that and I'd say my 5D3 is as close to a digital EOS 3 as anything I've used. If only it had ECF! I miss the 1 series/EOS 3 control system but it's not a detractor for me on the 5D3. It's a tool in the end, if it fits my hands and use well and doesn't feel like it's getting in the way it's going to satisfy me as a user.


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