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Feb 22, 2014 14:36 |  #151

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OOC JPGs? If so, that is a big part of the improvement, the JPG and NR engine finally got a facelift a few models ago.

I don't know what you in the bolded section? Shutter speeds have nothing to do with your camera, are you saying that before you would shoot at f2.8 and faster shutter speeds, and now you can run at f4 at slower shutter speeds? Again, that wouldn't be a camera thing. The ISOs you run at would be camera-related.

I would use ISO 6400 on the 7D quite often, but 12800 required finesse with settings and post processing. I can do ISO 25600 on the 5D3 and get close to the same results now with almost the same kinds of post processing steps. Nice!

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Totally OT, TeamSpeed, but how has Tony Mitchell looked this year when he's played for the Mad Ants? I was psyched when the Pistons drafted him, even if he is a bit of a project.


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Feb 22, 2014 15:41 |  #152

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Totally OT, TeamSpeed, but how has Tony Mitchell looked this year when he's played for the Mad Ants? I was psyched when the Pistons drafted him, even if he is a bit of a project.

His dunking is still great, his 3pt shots are a little lacking. He is very entertaining to watch though. :)


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Feb 22, 2014 17:18 |  #153

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His dunking is still great, his 3pt shots are a little lacking. He is very entertaining to watch though. :)

So he is pretty much Josh Smith without the huge contract? :)


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Feb 22, 2014 17:20 |  #154

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So he is pretty much Josh Smith without the huge contract? :)

lol :)

He is usually great with 3pt shots, the problem is that he gets hot/cold spells with those. The dunks are always fun though. He has great expressions too. Kinda funny I captured almost the same pose/expression at two different points in the game. :lol: At least he, and I, are consistent.

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Feb 22, 2014 22:47 |  #155

^^^^^^^Thank you so much for indulging my Tony Mitchell fetish!

Great captures on those takes to the hoop :)


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Feb 26, 2014 11:52 |  #156

I want to pass my .02 in this subject. I previously owned a 6D, via CLP, and I really liked the camera. The low light capability is just mind blowing. After some thought on my primary use for the camera chose to return the camera back and re-evaluate my choices for a FF camera for motorsports. I really like the price point of the 6D and that I mostly use center point for focus.

After looking at some of the reviews and images from the 6D for motorsport use they were just as expected. Clean sharp and detailed but at the same breath at least close to half of the user experience less number of keepers from the 6D. So in my case, I had to come to a realization look at I need to review these camera based solely on my needs to either spend the $$$ on a 5D or return back to the 6D and save some $$$ but the catch is the possibility for less keepers.

After reading these thread and some soul searching I went with the 5D III primarily based on the AF. I know that I am spending a lot of $$$ just for an advanced AF function but if it allows me to get more keeper shots the more business I can get from it. That is the plan.


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Feb 27, 2014 19:03 |  #157

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Trust me, most of the 6d guys haven't used 5dmk3 so don't know what they missing.

No, trust me. Most 5DIII owners have not used a 6D so they don't know what they're missing. I have used a 5DII, a 5DIII, and a 6D. The 5DII and 5DIII are great cameras. There is no doubt about it. They would do a great job at a dog show . . . . but so would the 6D . The center focus and the low-light capabilities of the 6D are very hard to beat.

I don't care how anyone else spends his/her money so buy a 5DIII if you want to but I bought a 6D and a 50mm 1.2 lens for what I would have paid for a 5DIII. I figure the camera is going to be outdated sooner or later but the lens will be around for a while.


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Feb 27, 2014 21:44 |  #158

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No, trust me. Most 5DIII owners have not used a 6D so they don't know what they're missing. I have used a 5DII, a 5DIII, and a 6D. The 5DII and 5DIII are great cameras. There is no doubt about it. They would do a great job at a dog show . . . . but so would the 6D . The center focus and the low-light capabilities of the 6D are very hard to beat.

I don't care how anyone else spends his/her money so buy a 5DIII if you want to but I bought a 6D and a 50mm 1.2 lens for what I would have paid for a 5DIII. I figure the camera is going to be outdated sooner or later but the lens will be around for a while.

If you checked, you will know I have owned 6d since it came out and I bought back 5dmk3 (bought first time when 5dmk3 was released) after a month of getting my 6d. Shot them side by side before I sold my 6d a month back.

And we not talking center point if you read any of these 6d vs 5dmk3 threads. We talking outer points.:)

Regarding center points both work fine at ISO25600, f1.4, 1/30 and light is low that I don't need anything better as shots from both look like crap to me.:)


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Feb 27, 2014 22:00 |  #159

While the outer AF points of the 6D work fine most of the time, I've seen them struggle in some situations. Unfortunately, focus-recompose is just not my style and that's certainly one of the things I'm missing out by not going for the 5D3. I wonder if the 6D would've gotten as much hate if it came with a 9-point all cross-type AF system (with maybe -1EV center) rather than the 11-point, single cross-type -3EV center AF system...


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Feb 28, 2014 00:30 |  #160

gfspencer wrote in post #16722854 (external link)
No, trust me. Most 5DIII owners have not used a 6D so they don't know what they're missing. I have used a 5DII, a 5DIII, and a 6D. The 5DII and 5DIII are great cameras. There is no doubt about it. They would do a great job at a dog show . . . . but so would the 6D . The center focus and the low-light capabilities of the 6D are very hard to beat.

I don't care how anyone else spends his/her money so buy a 5DIII if you want to but I bought a 6D and a 50mm 1.2 lens for what I would have paid for a 5DIII. I figure the camera is going to be outdated sooner or later but the lens will be around for a while.


Hi
have you tried shooting that 6D + 50 f1.2 combo at f1.2 on a bright sunny day... tell us what happens with the shutter speed/exposure...


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Feb 28, 2014 00:44 |  #161

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Hi
have you tried shooting that 6D + 50 f1.2 combo at f1.2 on a bright sunny day... tell us what happens with the shutter speed/exposure...

the same thing happens to any camera at those settings. Its a minor inconvenience that gets solved by a 3 stop ND filter.


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Feb 28, 2014 02:21 |  #162

sardines wrote in post #16723380 (external link)
Hi
have you tried shooting that 6D + 50 f1.2 combo at f1.2 on a bright sunny day... tell us what happens with the shutter speed/exposure...

Seriously?

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the same thing happens to any camera at those settings. Its a minor inconvenience that gets solved by a 3 stop ND filter.

This.

1 stop rarely makes or breaks a photo. A smart photographer would bring an ND filter if they were planning on shooting in those conditions regardless of the body. Chances are if 1/4000s won't be fast enough, neither will 1/8000s be. Heck, I rarely have shots that get to 1/4000s...


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Feb 28, 2014 05:57 |  #163

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1 stop rarely makes or breaks a photo. A smart photographer would bring an ND filter if they were planning on shooting in those conditions regardless of the body.

Ha ha ha. If it's a bright sunny day, most normal people would be using a polarizing filter. There's 1 stop already.




  
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sardines wrote in post #16723380 (external link)
Hi
have you tried shooting that 6D + 50 f1.2 combo at f1.2 on a bright sunny day... tell us what happens with the shutter speed/exposure...

You mean like this?

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Anything in particular I should be looking for? Maybe increase the exposure a little?
I got it! If I had dropped the ISO to 50 I could have halved the shutter speed to 2000! Naw...not really necessary...

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Feb 28, 2014 10:34 |  #165

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You mean like this?

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Anything in particular I should be looking for? Maybe increase the exposure a little?
I got it! If I had dropped the ISO to 50 I could have halved the shutter speed to 2000! Naw...not really necessary...

Thanks, nice pic... so what's the shutter speed on this ? When I had a 6D for a short while, the 1/4000 was over exposed on my f1.4 on a bright day. No Iwasn't shooting at the sun...it was just a bright sunny day:D


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