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Feb 28, 2014 15:32 |  #136

You would tether a factory strap?


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Feb 28, 2014 15:55 |  #137

gakoenig wrote in post #16722828 (external link)
Umm, no.

Human error would be a valid argument if the system failed in a predictable, preventable way that the user was either made aware of or was blatantly obvious.

What seems to be the case here is a sort of unpredictable interaction between two products that is non-obvious during normal use.

I've got as much of a case to hate on BR as anyone here, but it isn't even really their fault. With so many cameras and so many different configurations of each of those cameras possible (lenses, flashes, grips, etc...), it is impossible to test every permutation. Adding to that is the fact that this is an intermittent situation that nobody has been able to even properly document - I've yet to see precisely how the BR strap can get into a position to hit this button, nor the movements required during use to produce it.

Now, if BR is made aware of the fact that 5D MkIIIs with the 70-200 glass have a high probability of failure, and BR does nothing to make their users aware of the condition and educates them about how to mitigate it (even if it requires buying their tether kit), that would be on BR. I've yet to see any evidence that they know this is a problem however.

User error is a problem only if you make the user aware. It isn't on the customer to predict every possible wacky case.

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If the lens was not seated properly it was Operator Error,


Greg, take your opinions out of this thread. You are just stirring up biased problems.

You should be ashamed of your blatant use of this thread.




  
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Feb 28, 2014 15:58 |  #138

Ah - only the Denny G views allowed in this thread...


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Feb 28, 2014 16:00 |  #139

Ryan0751 wrote in post #16724819 (external link)
Well the total repair is $335.

Yes, the lens was definitely mounted on the body when I went out. I didn't do any lens swapping that day.

You were there, I was not. Can you just venture a guess as to why the camera and lens separated.




  
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Feb 28, 2014 16:02 |  #140

pwm2 wrote in post #16724972 (external link)
Ah - only the Denny G views allowed in this thread...

Don't make light of this thread pw. We are trying to get to the bottom of this.




  
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Feb 28, 2014 16:12 |  #141

And he has already posted his guess why the camera + lens separated.

That the camera bumped against his body so the release button hit something in his pocket.


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Feb 28, 2014 16:24 |  #142

I don't know about everyone else but that sounds good enough to me. I definitely believe that could happen even if someone thinks it was user error. Besides who cares. It happened, the OP is getting it fixed, lot of good conversation and ideas to prevent future incidents and manufacturers might come up with other ideas to prevent this.


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Feb 28, 2014 16:28 |  #143

What bias am I showing?

Would that be the bias that comes from designing camera straps for a living? That same bias where I'm (essentially) defending a competitor?

Also, you have zero right to tell me what I should do.


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Feb 28, 2014 18:15 |  #144

Guys, just use the ignore list. any further "discussion" with that guy just isn't going anywhere.


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Feb 28, 2014 20:20 |  #145

Thanks for bringing this to attention! similar thing happened to me with a nifty fifty, I'm glad it was just that, but now I'm much more cautious about how my cameras swinging around.


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Mar 01, 2014 08:07 |  #146

Any chance someone was behind you and tried to steal the lens and mishandled it and it fell?


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Mar 02, 2014 03:10 |  #147

gakoenig wrote in post #16724884 (external link)
You would tether a factory strap?

Never used a factory strap, but I would look into how to do it, yes.


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Mar 02, 2014 03:12 |  #148

pwm2 wrote in post #16725003 (external link)
And he has already posted his guess why the camera + lens separated.

That the camera bumped against his body so the release button hit something in his pocket.

And this is a design flaw on the strap. Of course.


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Mar 02, 2014 03:13 |  #149

gakoenig wrote in post #16725031 (external link)
Also, you have zero right to tell me what I should do.

Actually, he has every right to tell you what you should do. And you have the right to ignore his pleas.


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Mar 03, 2014 17:38 |  #150

I just ordered the Tether-Kit (external link) today




  
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