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Mar 04, 2014 01:19 |  #1

I have got a job as a photographer at a local business. My mission is to photograph the nightlife inside the pubs but also outdoor and everyday photography. I have long wanted to buy a wide angle to my APS-C (70D) camera and will now do so, but which one? I would like to use it in the job but also in my private landscape and nature photography.

I have these two options:
Tokina AT-X 11-16/2.8 DX (complete, used, 3months warranty) 640 USD
Sigma 10-20/4-5.6 (NY, 5 year warranty) 480 USD

What do you think?


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Mar 04, 2014 04:13 |  #2

I think the 11-16 is too narrow and too narrow a range. The 10-20 is too slow. A better body for the nightclub stuff is the 6D. Couple it with a 35 f/2, 50 f/1.4 and perhaps an 85 1.8 and you are good for nightclubs. Add a 24-105, or 28-135 for the daytime stuff and you should be well equiped.




  
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Mar 04, 2014 04:37 |  #3

GaryD wrote in post #16733164 (external link)
I think the 11-16 is too narrow and too narrow a range. The 10-20 is too slow. A better body for the nightclub stuff is the 6D. Couple it with a 35 f/2, 50 f/1.4 and perhaps an 85 1.8 and you are good for nightclubs. Add a 24-105, or 28-135 for the daytime stuff and you should be well equiped.

Okay thank you but a 6D is not on my shoppinglist now :(


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Mar 04, 2014 04:43 |  #4

Have you considered the Sigma 18-35? It is more expensive than your other options. Or the Canon 10-22, which is a bit faster than the Sigma 10-20? Just tossing out ideas.




  
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Mar 04, 2014 05:53 |  #5

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Have you considered the Sigma 18-35? It is more expensive than your other options. Or the Canon 10-22, which is a bit faster than the Sigma 10-20? Just tossing out ideas.

I've the 18-35 in my mind but it's not so wide, I can get Sigma 50/1.4 + 10-20/4-5.6 for the same price as 18-35


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Mar 04, 2014 06:14 |  #6

Fast and wide is a problem for subframe bodies. The 11-16 2.8 may be your best bet.




  
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Mar 04, 2014 06:39 |  #7

The sigma 10-20 is a great lens. It's great for lanscapes. I also use mine for long exosures of night sky. Problem is you need fast for indoors, low light pub scene unless you are using flash. I haven't used mine with flash, but would expect flash isn't wide enough without modifications. Just my 2 cents.


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Mar 04, 2014 10:27 |  #8

i owned the 11-16 and it was a phenomenal lens except for the propensity to flare, Tokina has since come out with a version 2 however i have not heard if the flare issue has been resolved. if this is not an issue then i would suggest you consider this lens as it fits your needs of fast and ultra wide.

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Mar 04, 2014 14:41 |  #9

What about the focus issue with 18-35 and 70D together?


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Mar 04, 2014 19:48 |  #10

notimetochill wrote in post #16734316 (external link)
What about the focus issue with 18-35 and 70D together?


I have a 70D and the 18-35...zero focus issues.




  
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Mar 04, 2014 20:33 |  #11

notimetochill wrote in post #16733033 (external link)
I have got a job as a photographer at a local business. My mission is to photograph the nightlife inside the pubs but also outdoor and everyday photography. I have long wanted to buy a wide angle to my APS-C (70D) camera and will now do so, but which one? I would like to use it in the job but also in my private landscape and nature photography.

I have these two options:
Tokina AT-X 11-16/2.8 DX (complete, used, 3months warranty) 640 USD
Sigma 10-20/4-5.6 (NY, 5 year warranty) 480 USD

What do you think?

Why are you not considering the Canon 10-22 f3.5-f4.5? Faster than the Sigma and more range than either one. The best flare control of the lot. $649 new in the US.


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Mar 04, 2014 20:46 |  #12

i assume you're using a flash with either for the indoor nightlife shots?...in that case speed really doesn't matter at all...and if you don't already have a flash, buy the sigma and a flash

what other lenses do you have?


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Mar 04, 2014 20:52 |  #13

DreDaze wrote in post #16735073 (external link)
i assume you're using a flash with either for the indoor nightlife shots?...in that case speed really doesn't matter at all...and if you don't already have a flash, buy the sigma and a flash

what other lenses do you have?

I disagree, it still matters. 2.8 will be able to gather a whole lot more ambient, 1-2 stops.


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Mar 05, 2014 21:44 |  #14

Heya,

The 11-16mm F2.8 Tokina is great. The issue is going to be flare from lights in pubs/clubs/etc. If you are ok with watching for that and angling around it if it shows up, then this lens will do the job very well for you. Build quality is absolutely phenomenal. Very sharp. Easy to focus. Performance is really, really good. But it's heel, is the flare control. So if you're willing to be mindful of light sources making a flare (keep hood on obviously), it will do low light shots very well. It's my go-to ultrawide on my crop.

Have you considered:

Sigma 20mm F1.8
Canon 20mm F2.8
Samyang 14mm F2.8

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Mar 06, 2014 02:56 |  #15

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Heya,

The 11-16mm F2.8 Tokina is great. The issue is going to be flare from lights in pubs/clubs/etc. If you are ok with watching for that and angling around it if it shows up, then this lens will do the job very well for you. Build quality is absolutely phenomenal. Very sharp. Easy to focus. Performance is really, really good. But it's heel, is the flare control. So if you're willing to be mindful of light sources making a flare (keep hood on obviously), it will do low light shots very well. It's my go-to ultrawide on my crop.

Have you considered:

Sigma 20mm F1.8
Canon 20mm F2.8
Samyang 14mm F2.8

Very best,

I've made my decision now :) tomorrow you'll see which lens I bought earlier today :)


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