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Feb 27, 2014 16:50 |  #1

Hey guys,

A friend who knows I'm a photographer is looking for someone to shoot video at a wedding. I've done a little playing around with video on my cameras, but to be frank, I know nothing about editing video. Apparently the brides mother just wants it recorded ("nothing fancy") and wants to pay for it. Other than editing, my other concerns are the 12 minute cutoff on these bodies, and the crappy built-in mic sound quality (picks up everything).

So here is what I'm looking for input on:

1. For those that shoot wedding video with dslrs, How do you work around the 12 minute cutoff with 2 bodies?

2. What is good free/inexpensive editing software? I downloaded windows movie maker a while back and never used it...is that worth using?

3. Suggestions for a decent (not outrageously priced) stereo microphone

4. They want to know what I would charge. I haven't agreed to the job yet, and need a fair "friend" price idea to charge if I take the assignment.

Thanks for any and all input!

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Feb 27, 2014 20:58 |  #2

1. When there's a pause in the ceremony or a long silence I stop recording then immediately continue. I do that so I can ensure it wont hit the limit and cut off if they're talking.

2. Windows movie maker will do the job for something straight forward like this

3. Zoom h1 in the grooms pocket with a little lavalier mic. Or plug the h1 in the church soundboard
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4. Friend price its tough... your call but atleast 20-30/hr


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Feb 28, 2014 01:14 |  #3

one2nite wrote in post #16723076 (external link)
1. When there's a pause in the ceremony or a long silence I stop recording then immediately continue. I do that so I can ensure it wont hit the limit and cut of if they're talking.

2. Windows movie maker will do the job for something straight forward like this

3. Zoom h1 in the grooms pocket with a little lavalier mic. Or plug the h1 in the church soundboard
zoom h1 99$
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …es&sts=ma&Top+N​av-Search= (external link)
AUDIO TECHNICA ATR-3350 22$
http://www.ebay.ca …_trksid=p3984.m​1423.l2649 (external link)

4. Friend price its tough... your call but atleast 20-30/hr

Perfect! Thanks so much for the info. The time estimate was even better than a dollar amount... :)


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Feb 28, 2014 13:03 |  #4

no problem! whens the wedding?


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Feb 28, 2014 16:26 |  #5

one2nite wrote in post #16724552 (external link)
no problem! whens the wedding?

2 weeks! Apparently it was a last minute thing. I'm going to play around with the windows movie maker tonight and make sure I'm comfortable stitching (is that the right term for video?) clips together. As long as I can do that I'll probably go ahead and do it for them. Thanks again for the info! :)


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Feb 28, 2014 18:14 |  #6

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2. Windows movie maker will do the job for something straight forward like this
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Definitely! I recorded a bunch of random clips this afternoon to give the software a try. It is VERY simple, and I figured out how to add a title at the beginning to make it just a tad more professional looking. I think I just might do this job and maybe even like it! LOL :)


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Mar 01, 2014 00:46 |  #7

Ya for sure go for it! let us know how it goes. I started with movie maker years ago then moved to sony vegas. Same concept but al ot more features


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Mar 01, 2014 09:25 |  #8

Weddings have a high level of expectation and emotional connection. Mistakes are easy and can bring a very angry response.

DSLR have inherent problems will record time and audio monitoring. It will be very hard to get clear audio especially of the vows without a good mic within 10 feet of the couple with the DSLR on a tripod. This close position often means it will block others and the photographer. The church may have strict rules about the position of photo/video. Using 2 cameras with 2 camera people is the best way to minimize problems.

Its a very good idea to film the rehearsal at the church to handle these issues. There are hundreds of unforseen challenges and this is a big task for a novice. Good Luck.


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Mar 01, 2014 09:30 |  #9

sspellman wrote in post #16726292 (external link)
Weddings have a high level of expectation and emotional connection. Mistakes are easy and can bring a very angry response.

DSLR have inherent problems will record time and audio monitoring. It will be very hard to get clear audio especially of the vows without a good mic within 10 feet of the couple with the DSLR on a tripod. This close position often means it will block others and the photographer. The church may have strict rules about the position of photo/video. Using 2 cameras with 2 camera people is the best way to minimize problems.

Its a very good idea to film the rehearsal at the church to handle these issues. There are hundreds of unforseen challenges and this is a big task for a novice. God Luck.

I will be making it very clear to the customer that there are possible issues, as well as recommending she find an experienced professional. I will even be giving her the option to cancel with me if she finds a better solution. That being said, I have been wanting to give the video a try for a while...just not under pressure! Thanks for the reply :)


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Mar 05, 2014 07:55 |  #10

Install MagicLantern on the bodies, it has a built in auto restart for the recording mode after 12 minutes.

If you only plan on using these two cameras and their built in microphones (even with a shotgun mic). Then there is a very high likelihood that the final video is going to be nearly unbearable for anyone to watch, including the bride and groom.


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Mar 09, 2014 12:17 |  #11

Kento wrote in post #16735839 (external link)
Install MagicLantern on the bodies, it has a built in auto restart for the recording mode after 12 minutes.

If you only plan on using these two cameras and their built in microphones (even with a shotgun mic). Then there is a very high likelihood that the final video is going to be nearly unbearable for anyone to watch, including the bride and groom.

I agree with you about the sound quality. Fortunately, my full time job said I need to be available for assignments that day so I couldn't do the wedding video anyway. I did order myself a rode videomic go to play around with video on my 60D which will not be getting much love once my 5D mark iii gets here (ordered one Friday). I may have to look into the magi lantern thing you mentioned if I use the video stuff enough. Thanks for the reply


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