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Mar 11, 2014 17:14 |  #1

I rented a 5D mrk 3 to shoot our studios dance comp. I normally shoot with a 7d and I know the camera inside and out. Having had rented the 5D and having virtually no time to play with it before the Comp I was dialing in the settings during the dances. I had just finished shooting one of our girls numbers and was looking through the shots to see where I was at with the 5D. At that point I decided to dial back exposure compensation to -1 to see if it gave me the desired result. At the time there was a group of dancers from another studio on stage performing. I raised my camera and fired off a shot, reviewed the new settings, like them, then deleted the picture. I sat there with my camera down waiting for our studios turn to come up again. About 1 min later I feel a tap on my shoulder. I turn and hear this (yelling)" Why are you taking photos of my daughter?" I say"excuse me". Man says. "My daughter is in the number on stage and you are taking photos of her! I then try to explain to him that I was simply dialing in the settings on my camera and that I was in no way intentionally taking photos nor would I want to take photos of his daughter. In fact I told him the picture was already deleted and showed him my camera to prove it. Well he wanted no part of an explaination and proceeded to tell me (yelling) "Our studio has had nothing but problems with media and bad press and its all because of people like you! Problems with Media? People like me? WTF is this guys talking about?" This is where I decided to stop being a punching bag so I tell him. " I was checking settings in my camera, there was nothing sinister nor sneaking about what I was doing. Sorry you have a problem with that?" He stands up "II do have a problem,Im telling the director".... Long story short I meet the director of the Comp explain the email giving me permission to shoot the dance comp and who it is from. The director is aware of this. I explain to the man that I am also a father of a dancer here at the comp and I do in a small way understand his concern but I have explained myself, proven why I was there shooting and proven the photo in question was already deleted. I calm the situation best I can because I want to get back to shooting so I tell him I promise not to take any shots of his studios dances. The director clearly not having time for this BS asks the guy if that is good. He continues to explain about the media ect then agrees and leaves. We go off on our merry ways. Crisis averted. GEEZ!

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Come to find out ,this particular studio has been the subject of numerous news stories for their overly sexualy themed dance routines. Apparently of few of the routines that day people walked out of because of the sexual moves and skimmpy outfits that these girls years were performing in. If I had know this prior to the guy berating me and basically calling me a perverted stalker I could have shut him down before he got started. How ironic! Im the bad guy yet you allow your daughters to perform in these routines that are sexual in nature! Guess my point here guys is be careful. I have shot dance comps for for years. Never once had an issue of any kind until this guy and I hope to never again.




  
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Mar 11, 2014 18:19 |  #2

Sounds like this guy is a real fruitcake!

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Mar 11, 2014 18:47 |  #3

hats off to you for keeping your cool.


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Mar 11, 2014 18:57 |  #4

Lesson taken is don't check your settings via an image if you don't have permission to take actual images. I was at the courthouse the other day and simply was not able to check my settings until I had permission to snap. Bummer but it is what it is. I'd not wanted to have the trouble you did. Sorry this happened to you. Hope it did not steal the joy of seeing your daughter perform.


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Mar 11, 2014 19:21 |  #5

PicBug wrote in post #16751653 (external link)
Lesson taken is don't check your settings via an image if you don't have permission to take actual images. I was at the courthouse the other day and simply was not able to check my settings until I had permission to snap. Bummer but it is what it is. I'd not wanted to have the trouble you did. Sorry this happened to you. Hope it did not steal the joy of seeing your daughter perform.

I had permission to shoot the event and a printed email to prove it. Not good enough for this bozo. He was obviously over sensitive because of his studios past troubles. Troubles mind you that they brought upon themselves. Once it was all over I went back in and sat right down in the same seat I was in ( one away from him) and shot the rest of our studios performances. No jerk like that was gonna stop me from the joy of watching my daughter perform.




  
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Mar 11, 2014 19:31 |  #6

Sorry misunderstood. I thought you only had permission to shoot you daughters studio not the competition and the other studios. Either way he was so out of line to approach you like that. Grrrr.


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Mar 11, 2014 21:22 |  #7

That might have had a different outcome if your initial response had been "Wow, your daughter is HOT"




  
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Mar 12, 2014 02:15 |  #8

i'd reply with a swift "its for my spank bank, go bother someone else" and leave the rest to fate


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Mar 12, 2014 02:33 as a reply to  @ rick_reno's post |  #9

Have a DSLR around your neck, and you're an instant perv, paparazzi, privacy-infringer. I wouldn't have handled it as nicely/calmy as you... unfortunately, and the cops would have been called... at the very least.

I'm sooooooooooooooo sick of being asked what i'm doing when taking pics; now, that my standard reply is "what does it look like"? And these are farmer's fields! LMFAO!

Cops get called, and i always prevail.

Last run-in with the neighbor behind us in Nov; i'm going for a walk (3:30 pm), 60D w/300f/4L IS and 1.4x TC. He comes down his driveway to the road (about 200'), where ive been taking pics of his apples... that he dumped in a ditch on the other side of the road, to rot.(dumping/littering​/polluting.. fineable)

"Excuse me, can i help you"?
"Nope"
"Oh, wife says you're taking pics of our house"

"Nope..i'm not. I walk this road often, taking all kinds of pics... not your house".

"Well, we just appreciate our privacy", he says. I say.. "I WASN'T TAKING PICS OF YOUR HOUSE"
Then i introduce myself as the neighbor behind him.. shake his hand (he was very reluctant), I say... "oh yeah, you're the COP." He just smirks (probably now knowing, that i won't be taking any crap from him).

I tell him that "everyone is hassling me lately, giving me a hard time"
"I'm not hassling you, just that we do appreciate our privacy"

Ok... that's three times he said that in 2 minutes, and isn't listening to me, so after the third time i say " but if i was, or wanted to, it wouldn't be illegal"!

That shut his mouth, he says.. "ok... you have a nice day, bye"

I said, "just letting you know, that i know the laws and my rights"

He says, in typical cop-speak (used for trying to diffuse a situation), "no need to become confrontational" I say, "i wasn't... you're the one who confronted me, while i was minding my own business"!

He says again, "have a nice day, and STAY OFF MY PROPERTY". I turn and say " i wasn't on your property", and walk away. What an @sshat! :mad:

BS!!


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Mar 12, 2014 02:57 |  #10

You probably want to make sure the lights on your car are all working properly next time you drive past his house... "I know my rights" is only marginally behind "Do you know who I am" for guaranteeing the kind of attention you probably don't want :)


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Mar 13, 2014 12:54 |  #11

Imagine this: A pal of yours shows you a porn video online of your freshly minted 18 year old daughter. It's every fathers worst nightmare. The age of the internet has caused many privacy concerns. An example is that I often googlemap the address of someone I will do business with. I can see their home. If I can see it so can a criminal who is profiling neighborhoods. The reality is that this issue will not diminish with an increase of cameras. Regardless of what your intentions are. Half the world is filled with people who have lost their right to privacy to the internet age. Get used to it and keep your cool at ALL TIMES.




  
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Mar 13, 2014 12:59 |  #12

jetcode wrote in post #16755894 (external link)
keep your cool at ALL TIMES.nd

Great advice...




  
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Mar 13, 2014 14:18 |  #13

jetcode wrote in post #16755894 (external link)
Half the world is filled with people who have lost their right to privacy to the internet age.

A far larger number have surrendered their privacy in the name of "social media".

Somebody seeing the outside of your house on Google maps is peanuts compared to letting your "friends" on FB (or whatever) know that you'll be gone for two weeks on vacation and the dog is being boarded somewhere...

The NSA couldn't have designed a more invasive surveillance system, let alone get people to co-operate so willingly...




  
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Mar 13, 2014 14:37 |  #14

1Tanker wrote in post #16752401 (external link)
I'm sooooooooooooooo sick of being asked what i'm doing when taking pics; now, that my standard reply is "what does it look like"? And these are farmer's fields! LMFAO!

I got that twice. Once while I was taking pics of an obvious stunning sunset. I was maybe 4ft off the road standing in a field and the owner of the field happened by and almost ran me over, then proceeded to chew me out for not asking permission to stand in his field (just grass, no crops). Like I knew whose field it was.

Then another time I asked a farmer if I could shoot pics of him seeding his field. That turned into a long conversation, but in a good way. I ended up shooting loads of pics of him and his equipment. His initial fear was that I was someone from the anti-farming groups (didn't realize there were such things) that had been decrying "corporate farming" in the area. So he had a legitimate concern. I assured him I was not, I'm just a photoblogger.


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Mar 13, 2014 14:50 |  #15

1Tanker wrote in post #16752401 (external link)
Have a DSLR around your neck, and you're an instant perv.......!

It's the Terry Richardson effect. :eek::lol:


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