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Mar 10, 2014 22:30 |  #1006

More MarScaper tests with old image sets. Nothing aesthetically exciting here, but the ability to push these MarScaper files is tremendous. The color and lack of noise makes the output amenable to almost any workflow. These images have fairly intense chroma in some areas, but no clipping or other artifacts you often find in HDR merges.

Both images were intensely backlit, from outside natural light. The contrast often crushes accurate color rendition in areas of high local contrast and boosting the chroma to aesthetically pleasing levels can be an exercise in futility, but not so with these files. Likewise, the uniform areas with lighting gradients are rendered smoothly and accurately and withstand the addition of contrast without banding or abrupt shifts in tone. I also pushed the mid tones and shadows in these to get a sense of the ability to work with larger changes in these areas and see how resistant to noise they were. No problems.

However, I still have a lot to learn with this new application, so these examples, I am sure, will be improved as I learn the software.

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Mar 11, 2014 00:35 |  #1007

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Nice shot. Just a little bit of halo around the right side of the roof which is barely noticeable here but is more visible if you look at it in Flickr. I really like it. You did a great job. What software did you use ? Where was it taken?

Thanks. That's from Walt Disney World (Magic Kingdom). The halo around the roof is actually the humidity in the air being caught by the lights. In winter there you can get a thick level of fog that tends to roll in off the lake towards the end of the night and hang just above the buildings. When it's really heavy it can give a really surreal look to images that's almost impossible to believe. Especially with a long exposure time. This was taken one year later, slightly later in the month and slightly later at night. The whole sky was glowing orange around Main Street.

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The software is just Photomatix. Outside of Lr and Ps Photomatix is the only plug-in I use, and even then it's just to render the 32 bit Tiff file.

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Mar 11, 2014 07:49 |  #1008

kirkt wrote in post #16749563 (external link)
More MarScaper tests with old image sets. Nothing aesthetically exciting here, but the ability to push these MarScaper files is tremendous. The color and lack of noise makes the output amenable to almost any workflow. These images have fairly intense chroma in some areas, but no clipping or other artifacts you often find in HDR merges.

Both images were intensely backlit, from outside natural light. The contrast often crushes accurate color rendition in areas of high local contrast and boosting the chroma to aesthetically pleasing levels can be an exercise in futility, but not so with these files. Likewise, the uniform areas with lighting gradients are rendered smoothly and accurately and withstand the addition of contrast without banding or abrupt shifts in tone. I also pushed the mid tones and shadows in these to get a sense of the ability to work with larger changes in these areas and see how resistant to noise they were. No problems.

However, I still have a lot to learn with this new application, so these examples, I am sure, will be improved as I learn the software.

kirk

That looks like an interesting program. Like most mac products pretty intuitive. Did you just download it from the mac store directly to your computer?


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Mar 11, 2014 08:09 |  #1009

ptcanon3ti wrote in post #16750154 (external link)
That looks like an interesting program. Like most mac products pretty intuitive. Did you just download it from the mac store directly to your computer?

I downloaded the trial first, from the website:

http://www.marscaper.e​liotis.com (external link)

and then purchased it through the App Store. It is intuitive, fast and efficient. The developer, user name "Mala" here on POTN, has started a thread about it in the HDR forum here:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1365330

The nice thing is you can use the application and give him feedback directly. The application was made by him for his personal need for a more photorealistic HDR app; however, it seems to be developing into a full-fledged tool, and I am sure he would appreciate users' experience with it. It is nice to have someone who can design, develop and code who is also a photographer!

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Mar 11, 2014 08:19 |  #1010

kirkt wrote in post #16750191 (external link)
I downloaded the trial first, from the website:

http://www.marscaper.e​liotis.com (external link)

and then purchased it through the App Store. It is intuitive, fast and efficient. The developer, user name "Mala" here on POTN, has started a thread about it in the HDR forum here:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1365330

The nice thing is you can use the application and give him feedback directly. The application was made by him for his personal need for a more photorealistic HDR app; however, it seems to be developing into a full-fledged tool, and I am sure he would appreciate users' experience with it. It is nice to have someone who can design, develop and code who is also a photographer!

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Wow!!! That is awesome info. I'm going to download it tonight when I get home to my own computer. It that price of $20 correct?


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Mar 11, 2014 08:40 |  #1011

ptcanon3ti wrote in post #16750207 (external link)
It that price of $20 correct?

Correct.

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Mar 11, 2014 10:20 |  #1012

:eek:

Wow! Nothing in photography is $20. :lol:


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Mar 11, 2014 10:51 |  #1013

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I like this thread as well. Here comes some more from my archive. This picture was taken from my hotel-room in Svolvær (North in Norway). It was 1:00 am and the midnight sun was just at the horizon.

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I love this! How did you process this? How many frames did you combine? Nice!


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Mar 11, 2014 18:17 |  #1014

Scatterbrained wrote in post #16749741 (external link)
Thanks. That's from Walt Disney World (Magic Kingdom). The halo around the roof is actually the humidity in the air being caught by the lights. In winter there you can get a thick level of fog that tends to roll in off the lake towards the end of the night and hang just above the buildings. When it's really heavy it can give a really surreal look to images that's almost impossible to believe. Especially with a long exposure time. This was taken one year later, slightly later in the month and slightly later at night. The whole sky was glowing orange around Main Street.

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The software is just Photomatix. Outside of Lr and Ps Photomatix is the only plug-in I use, and even then it's just to render the 32 bit Tiff file.

Ok. When you said the Plaza Restaurant my first thought was Disneyland in CA where I go at least once a year but I didn't recognize it. But it did look like a Disney building. Next February I have tentative plans for a trip to Disneyworld. If it come off I'm looking forward to getting some good shots. I assume you must go there often because of the lack of people in some of your shots. Unless you have an "in" the only way to get those shots is to hang around until everyone leaves and shoot what you can before security forces you out.

That makes sense about the halo as I didn't see it in the trees or other places where you might expect it. I sometimes use Photomatix the same way. Render the 32 bit TIFF and then work on it in Photoshop. Unfortunately some of the tools don't work on 32 bit images so eventually they have to be converted.

Do you mind telling me what camera and lenses you use for these shots?


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Mar 11, 2014 20:42 |  #1015

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Mar 12, 2014 07:24 |  #1016

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Mar 12, 2014 07:49 |  #1017

kirkt wrote in post #16750191 (external link)
I downloaded the trial first, from the website:

http://www.marscaper.e​liotis.com (external link)

and then purchased it through the App Store. It is intuitive, fast and efficient. The developer, user name "Mala" here on POTN, has started a thread about it in the HDR forum here:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1365330

The nice thing is you can use the application and give him feedback directly. The application was made by him for his personal need for a more photorealistic HDR app; however, it seems to be developing into a full-fledged tool, and I am sure he would appreciate users' experience with it. It is nice to have someone who can design, develop and code who is also a photographer!

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When you use MarScaper to merge to HDR, do you import Raw files or do you pre-process first in something like LightRoom?
When I use photomatix I pre-process in LR then import to do the hdr. I find that the lens corrections in LR are very valuable before I merge my images.

Just wondering what you do.
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Mar 12, 2014 07:52 |  #1018

ptcanon3ti wrote in post #16752698 (external link)
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When you use MarScaper to merge to HDR, do you import Raw files or do you pre-process first in something like LightRoom?
When I use photomatix I pre-process in LR then import to do the hdr. I find that the lens corrections in LR are very valuable before I merge my images.

Just wondering what you do.
Thanks!

Well if this is your process with Photomatix, I dont see why it wouldnt be the same process no matter what HDR program you are using.

If you want the lens corrections, as I do as well you will need to pre-process and save as TIFF for example and then load into Marscaper HDR.


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Mar 12, 2014 08:06 |  #1019

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Well if this is your process with Photomatix, I dont see why it wouldnt be the same process no matter what HDR program you are using.

If you want the lens corrections, as I do as well you will need to pre-process and save as TIFF for example and then load into Marscaper HDR.

Yeah...I agree. The lens correction, sharpening, color correction, chromatic aboration, noise reduction, are all so valuable in LR. I can't really skip that process.

When do you convert to jpeg for printing etc? TIFF files are huge.


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Mar 12, 2014 08:38 |  #1020

ptcanon3ti wrote in post #16752734 (external link)
Yeah...I agree. The lens correction, sharpening, color correction, chromatic aboration, noise reduction, are all so valuable in LR. I can't really skip that process.

When do you convert to jpeg for printing etc? TIFF files are huge.

I convert to JPG right after the HDR is completed.

I always keep the TIF images however.


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