kfreels wrote in post #16758720
I just don't understand how "spray and pray" even applies. That's not what sports photographers, or people like me just shooting their kids in sports and other fast action events do. We time everything just like any other person who only has 1 fps. We follow the action, anticipate, and when we see a moment where we anticipate a good shot, we fire off a short burst to catch that moment in various fractions of a second. That is the process no matter how many fps you have on your camera.
And in the film age of 1 FPS, and sure if you were lucky you could get a decent shot with anticipation and timing. Today with both anticipation, timing and high FPS you can feel confident that you will walk away with a number of good shots you can use.
Modern sports photographers thanks to cameras like a 1DX can feel confident that they will usually get the shot they wanted.
MakisM1 wrote in post #16758755
Often you see video or (older film) with fashion or glamour shooting, where the photographer fires in short bursts of high FPS. It's not sports, or even 'action', but the models are not static either. The difference of 2/10ths of a second in expression, the glint of the eye... can make a difference.
Expression matters just as much with sports photography, you really want a shot that captures the struggle and effort the athlete is going through. 2/10s of a second is also a long period of time in fast moving sports, it is the difference between the start of a tackle and the middle of a tackle.
Charlie wrote in post #16752846
right, but you need to keep in mind that this debate is not just about faster gear.
for example: 60D or 7D is an open and shut door. 6D or 5D3, again, open shut. 1D3 or 1D4 again, open shut.
this is about the tradeoff between image quality and continuous shooting.
7D or 5D3 which is better and why?
7D or 6D?
70D or 6D?
60D or 6D?
at which point will you favor shutter speed for image q?
If we're talking about sports, the 7D in every case, high frame rate is simply more important than low noise high ISO.
It's a choice between the 1DX or 7D for sports, which ever you can afford.
Hopefully the rumoured 10FPS 7D mark 2 will be out soon.
kin2son wrote in post #16752259
That's exactly what I told Mornnb. No point wasting time.
And look what I got form the 6D fanboys? Calling me a hater..
I am a 6D fanboy, it's image sensor is perfect and the camera is wonderfully lightweight. But I also shoot sports and need a camera that can do a decent job at it, that's the 7D not the 6D...
kfreels wrote in post #16752247
Teamspeed...You are wasting your time. Get out now. People who don't want to get it aren't going to get it. The rest will do a simple calculation that 8fps is .125 seconds which is still faster than anyone here has claimed to be able to react and anticipate. They certainly don't understand that we don't just lay on the shutter and let the camera do the work. We anticipate as close as we can - say down to .5 seconds +/- and capture 3-5 frames around that moment at .125 increments which is a more refined capability than anyone can claim to do with anticipation alone. It's really simple math and if someone disagrees it's because they want to believe what they do and you'll never break through that with facts. Some people just don't science well.
Can everyone re-read this comment by kfreels, and stop arguing please?