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Well crap I did it.... bye bye 6D... hello 5D3!

 
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Mar 16, 2014 17:19 |  #121

Congrats on your purchase. Looking forward to your review of the 5d iii as you compare it to the 6d.


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Mar 16, 2014 19:08 |  #122

Wow, Talley you have been spending a bomb on photo gear lately! :)


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Mar 16, 2014 19:20 |  #123

Talley, I don't have time to read this whole thread, nor do I have the desire. But, I will say that from what I have read I gather you simply want an awesome AF system on a FF camera that will let you capture great shots of your life, kids, etc....Well, you have made the right decision! The 5D3 is fantastic. I bought one the day they came out, paid full price new, and haven't regretted it for a second. My fast moving kids are 99.9% of my subject matter. The 5D2 and crappy outer focus points (similar to the 6D) just could not hang. Put your new camera in AI Servo, choose any of the 41 cross type FP's, and go to town. Congrats.


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Mar 16, 2014 20:19 |  #124

idsurfer wrote in post #16763428 (external link)
Talley, I don't have time to read this whole thread, nor do I have the desire. But, I will say that from what I have read I gather you simply want an awesome AF system on a FF camera that will let you capture great shots of your life, kids, etc....Well, you have made the right decision! The 5D3 is fantastic. I bought one the day they came out, paid full price new, and haven't regretted it for a second. My fast moving kids are 99.9% of my subject matter. The 5D2 and crappy outer focus points (similar to the 6D) just could not hang. Put your new camera in AI Servo, choose any of the 41 cross type FP's, and go to town. Congrats.

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Mar 16, 2014 20:19 |  #125

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Wow, Talley you have been spending a bomb on photo gear lately! :)

Nah. Just moving funds around. I'm fixing to put some flash studio stuff up, camera, lenses... etc up for sale.

Need to sell off about half of what I just spent really to feel comfortable. Now I have to decide what is important. 135 will probably go bye bye. Fisheye, 6D... a few softboxes and a couple strobes. Prolly sell the 300 after cheer is over.


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Mar 16, 2014 20:23 |  #126

Congrats! Nothing wrong with stepping up to the next model if the current one is proving to be inadequate. I got a 6D after struggling with my 7D in low light. I still kept my 7D for birding though. My kids are old enough and don't do sports, so I find the 6D to be the perfect fit for me. If in the future I find the 6D to be limiting, I wouldn't hesitate to move up. Pretty simple, really. Get the camera that meets your needs and if you can do it at the lowest price point possible, then that's even better! :)


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Mar 16, 2014 20:28 |  #127

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Congrats! Nothing wrong with stepping up to the next model if the current one is proving to be inadequate. I got a 6D after struggling with my 7D in low light. I still kept my 7D for birding though. My kids are old enough and don't do sports, so I find the 6D to be the perfect fit for me. If in the future I find the 6D to be limiting, I wouldn't hesitate to move up. Pretty simple, really. Get the camera that meets your needs and if you can do it at the lowest price point possible, then that's even better! :)

I've been torn on this. 6D/7D combo would be killer. Dual bodies would be great too for a backup. Crop would be nice for reach. I loved my 7d loved it. The above ISO 800 suffered. Even the ISO 100 had some artifact bokeh. FF has smooth creamy goodness.

7D are cheap too. I may ditch the 5D3 and stick to the 6D/7D really. Gives me more flexibility I just hate having to go back and having to spend time on the files making them look decent.


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Mar 16, 2014 21:50 |  #128

Yeah, people sometimes suggest that I buy a 5DIII to replace my 70D and 6D, but I often need two bodies (at the same time), I definitely like to have a nice FF (6D), I prefer a good crop for my birding photography, AND I have limited funds. So owing one 5DIII as my single body would be more limiting to me in many ways than having my 70D and 6D.


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Mar 16, 2014 22:20 |  #129

kin2son wrote in post #16761670 (external link)
I bet any 41 crosstype points on 5D3 will have no problem locking on.

I'll add to that bet.


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Mar 16, 2014 22:29 |  #130

gabebalazs wrote in post #16763733 (external link)
Yeah, people sometimes suggest that I buy a 5DIII to replace my 70D and 6D, but I often need two bodies (at the same time), I definitely like to have a nice FF (6D), I prefer a good crop for my birding photography, AND I have limited funds. So owing one 5DIII as my single body would be more limiting to me in many ways than having my 70D and 6D.

I don't think anyone is trying to say the 6D is not worth having and lots of people did well with a 7D/5DII combo and is certainly seems like 70D/6D is a step up from that. I'm still think the 7D is a really nice camera and having 2 bodies is at times vital.

It's a question of each of us finding the body/combo that meets our needs with (usually) the least expense. The issue I think many of us are having is the assertion that 'the 6D is so awesome nobody needs a 'better' camera'. (of course I'm stretching the work 'need', maybe 'would benefit from').


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Mar 17, 2014 00:36 as a reply to  @ Talley's post |  #131

Prolly sell the 300 after cheer is over.[/QUOTE]


It's not an easy lens to part with.:)


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Mar 17, 2014 05:19 |  #132

Sold my 6d back in January for pretty much the same reasons. Held off purchasing the 5d3, as i was hoping for Canon to announce the 7d2. I'll give them till end of April before i take the plunge.

By the way Talley - congrats.


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Mar 17, 2014 06:53 |  #133

I could afford a 5D3 no problem (see the lenses in my signature), but I'm quite happy with the 6D. It has a couple of advantages.
Lightweight/compact. A 6D with a 24-70mm II 2.8 is lighter and smaller than a 5D3 with a 24-105mm.
Better sensor. High ISO, slightly better dynamic range and slightly cleaner shadows.
Wifi. It's actually useful, I never want to go back to using remotes for long exposure shots. iPad + 6D is awesome for landscapes.

I do not feel that awesome autofocus is compensation for losing these features. The 6D's autofocus is quite adequate. Just trust the outer points, they do the job and work better than focus recomposing. Both in terms of composition and focus accuracy.

I shot this with with an outer point and the 24-70mm II.

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Mar 17, 2014 07:22 as a reply to  @ Mornnb's post |  #134

Why wouldn't the outer points work for a static singer shot? Just about any camera could do that I would think, even the 7D or 5D2 with such a new USM L (3rd party lenses might have hunted). Outer points only come into discussion when there are subjects moving quickly or unpredictably, I believe.

That shot is equivalent to 1/25th, f2.8, ISO 3200, and I am sure some here have shot that type of condition, including myself.

Now the ISO looks great, only 3 Canon cameras can pull of 25600 that aren't too bad to clean up!


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Mar 17, 2014 08:06 |  #135

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Why wouldn't the outer points work for a static singer shot? Just about any camera could do that I would think, even the 7D or 5D2 with such a new USM L (3rd party lenses might have hunted). Outer points only come into discussion when there are subjects moving quickly or unpredictably, I believe.

Essentially my point, as static or slow movement covers most shooting situations I find. Which the outer points are well up to.

That shot is equivalent to 1/25th, f2.8, ISO 3200, and I am sure some here have shot that type of condition, including myself.

You can't shoot singing human beings at 1/25 without motion blur! I've tried on the 7D, had to use f/1.4 primes. :lol:

Now the ISO looks great, only 3 Canon cameras can pull of 25600 that aren't too bad to clean up!

Being a 7D shooter, I am familiar with cleaning up high ISO noise. I found I could get away with ISO 3200 on the 7D and maybe 6400 in a pinch. The 6D, 25600 is much easier to work with than Iso 6400 on the 7D. This image sensor is just ridiculous.


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