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Mar 19, 2014 21:40 |  #1

Ok, I should know this but I don't. Going to be buying a new 11 - 16 F2.8 Tokina lens for my 60D soon. Is my 60D full frame or aps-c??? I also have a Canon T2i and don't know if it's aps-c or full frame. Anyone help me out here? Thanks.




  
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Mar 19, 2014 21:41 |  #2

It's a crop sensor just like your T2i.


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Mar 19, 2014 21:41 |  #3
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Both are crop. 6D is full frame




  
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Mar 19, 2014 21:45 |  #4

60D and T2i are both APS-C.
Canon's full frame cameras are: 1Dx, 5D (all marks), 6D, 1Ds (all marks).
The APS-H bodies are 1D (all versions, but not 1Dx).
Everything else is APS-C.




  
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Mar 19, 2014 21:52 |  #5

riverratmike wrote in post #16771626 (external link)
Ok, I should know this but I don't. Going to be buying a new 11 - 16 F2.8 Tokina lens for my 60D soon. Is my 60D full frame or aps-c??? I also have a Canon T2i and don't know if it's aps-c or full frame. Anyone help me out here? Thanks.

Apsc both cameras, you will love the Tokina, it has great wide angle and its real sharp,you will love it




  
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Mar 19, 2014 21:52 |  #6

riverratmike wrote in post #16771626 (external link)
Ok, I should know this but I don't. Going to be buying a new 11 - 16 F2.8 Tokina lens for my 60D soon. Is my 60D full frame or aps-c??? I also have a Canon T2i and don't know if it's aps-c or full frame. Anyone help me out here? Thanks.

APS-C. Both of them.

I suggest you stop and read manuals and familiarize yourself with your gear, before you start buying stuff.

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Mar 19, 2014 22:09 |  #7

thanks everyone I appreciate the feedback




  
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Mar 19, 2014 22:56 as a reply to  @ riverratmike's post |  #8

Like yourself, I have pondered the Full Frame question. I highly agree with MalVeauX on familarizing yourself with your 60D before going full frame. It really depends on what you are planning on doing with Full Frame. Yes, the Full Frame is used by photographers for th full sized image, and also better noise quality than APS-C cameras, however you lose the 1.6 crop factor that APS-C cameras have. There may be other points I may be missing, but that's what I see. The image quality between APS-C cameras and full frame's are basically the same. If you really want a full frame camera, start building up your camera gear by getting EF lenses if you haven't started all ready. But for now, just stick with what you have. The 60D is a good camera and will work for your photography needs.




  
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Mar 20, 2014 00:10 |  #9

Thanks, so anything Canon with EOS is a APS-C sensor? Also what is the EF all about with lenses?




  
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Mar 20, 2014 00:46 |  #10

riverratmike wrote in post #16771853 (external link)
Thanks, so anything Canon with EOS is a APS-C sensor? Also what is the EF all about with lenses?

All of the Canon DSLR cameras are EOS including the full frame models. EF stands for Electronic Focus and refers to the mount, EF-S lenses are for the models with APS-c sensors, you can mount an EF on an APS-c model but you can't mount an EF-S on a full frame model.




  
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Mar 20, 2014 01:16 |  #11

Full frame: 5D range, 6D, 1Ds range, 1Dx
APS-H: 1D range
APS-C: Everything else

EF lenses fit all of them.
EF-S lenses fit APS-C.




  
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Mar 20, 2014 02:04 |  #12

riverratmike wrote in post #16771853 (external link)
Thanks, so anything Canon with EOS is a APS-C sensor? Also what is the EF all about with lenses?

Not all Canon EOS (Electro-Optical System) Cameras are APS-C format, some are full frame:

Canon Rebel Series - T1, T2, T3, T3i, T4i, T5i and T5 are APS-C Cameras

Canon Models: 40D, 50D, 60D, 70D, 7D are APS-C Cameras.

Full Frame Cameras: 5D, 5D Mark II, 5D Mark III, 6D, 1DX

Also, APS-C sensors have a crop factor of 1.6 including your 60D and T2i. Example, is an EF 24-105mm lens on a APS-C is actually 38-168mm lens. On a full frame, a 24-105 is a 24-105. The Full Frame doesnt have a crop factor.

Also, an EF-S lens say for example 18-55mm lens is a 18-55mm lens on a APS-C camera. The EF-S lens is made for APS-C camera's, but wont work on Full Frame camera.




  
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Mar 20, 2014 02:45 |  #13

riverratmike wrote in post #16771853 (external link)
Thanks, so anything Canon with EOS is a APS-C sensor? Also what is the EF all about with lenses?

shamlyn wrote in post #16772011 (external link)
Not all Canon EOS (Electro-Optical System) Cameras are APS-C format, some are full frame:

Canon Rebel Series - T1, T2, T3, T3i, T4i, T5i and T5 are APS-C Cameras

Canon Models: 40D, 50D, 60D, 70D, 7D are APS-C Cameras.

Full Frame Cameras: 5D, 5D Mark II, 5D Mark III, 6D, 1DX

Also, APS-C sensors have a crop factor of 1.6 including your 60D and T2i. Example, is an EF 24-105mm lens on a APS-C is actually 38-168mm lens. On a full frame, a 24-105 is a 24-105. The Full Frame doesnt have a crop factor.

Also, an EF-S lens say for example 18-55mm lens is a 18-55mm lens on a APS-C camera. The EF-S lens is made for APS-C camera's, but wont work on Full Frame camera.

Good post, except for the part I put in bold. an EF 24-105 mm lens is 24-105 mm regardless of what body it is mounted on. Focal length is inherent in the lens and nothing about the body can change that. The difference between what happens when it is mounted on FF or APS-C (or APS-H for that matter) is that the crop sensors just record less of the image that the lens makes available, that is, they crop it, hence, crop factor.




  
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Mar 20, 2014 02:54 |  #14

xarqi wrote in post #16772050 (external link)
Good post, except for the part I put in bold. an EF 24-105 mm lens is 24-105 mm regardless of what body it is mounted on. Focal length is inherent in the lens and nothing about the body can change that. The difference between what happens when it is mounted on FF or APS-C (or APS-H for that matter) is that the crop sensors just record less of the image that the lens makes available, that is, they crop it, hence, crop factor.

Good Point Xarqi, thanks for pointing that out.




  
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Mar 20, 2014 02:57 |  #15

and the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 ?
is it for the crop or for both ? The crop and FF ?


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