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Mar 21, 2014 17:45 |  #31

jbrackjr wrote in post #16775918 (external link)
I agree.

When you want the best and are willing to pay for it...go for it. I have no problem with that if there is no other alternative. If tripods were only made by Gitzo, I would have a Gitzo tripod (or insert RRS if you like). My Benro seems to be holding up just fine. You'd never know from my pictures that I use a less expensive tripod. I have two 5.5 inch lens plates, one from Jobu Designs ($60) one from China ($16) and honestly I don't see a difference.

And the time spent checking prices is just a couple of minutes on line, type in your info push the send button and the product arrives in a couple of days ( sometimes 2 weeks if it's from China:lol:).

I'm sure that owning an L brackett from RRS/Kirk/Markins gives a sense of pride in ownership and the knowledge that it will work each and every time you use it.

For me it is just a hunk of metal to hold the camera and lens, which after all is very light weight. It's not supporting my weight as I do chin ups.

welps, that's paying for brand recognition. Sometimes I do it, sometimes I dont. At the time, the 6D had no other options, and based on my previous dealings and reputation of RRS, it was a no brainer. If other options made reputable L plates for a lower price, I'de go for it, but there's an IF factor. I dont want a heavy bracket. I want a molded bracket. I want AS compatible. *If* I were to buy another bracket, it would have to satisfy those conditions, on top of that, I'de have to see how good the fit is prior to buying. That info isnt always provided, but with RRS, you know you're getting professional equipment.

The sunwayphoto L bracket actually looks like a BETTER product, but I cant verify since it wasnt an option for me. Some people just dont want to deal with product research and that's fine. It would take a bit of research to figure if it's worth the $50 or just skip it and get the branded version.

I bought 2 second hand L brackets that total less than 1 new. The product is certainly good, but not perfect.


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Mar 21, 2014 19:22 |  #32

My RRS L bracket was $180 a couple years ago but worth every penny. Its a low production item that fits my bodies perfectly and meets my needs. Very well built and totally functional.


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Mar 21, 2014 19:27 |  #33

digital paradise wrote in post #16773573 (external link)
Because you can't go to Home Depot and buy this stuff.

This!

They are made in relatively low quantities for a small audience in the USA by machines costing hundreds of thousands of dollars by a company that has a payroll, R&D and marketing bills.

$150 is really not that much for such a fine chunk of anodized aluminum.

I totally get the cost... I make custom door hardware. It is what it is.


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Mar 22, 2014 07:09 |  #34

Absolute custom fit...absolutely perfect...absolutely Really Right Stuff!

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Mar 22, 2014 07:31 |  #35

You think you have it hard at US$190 for a RRS L bracket for EOS5D Mk3 with grip? In Europe, they're €221.99 - equivalent US$306 :cry:

Globally it's still a tiny, tiny market for a very specialised item so in effect, they're each custom made. Which makes the asking price actually relatively low!

digital paradise wrote in post #16773573 (external link)
Because you can't go to Home Depot and buy this stuff.

How right you are there, I really can't :D


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Mar 22, 2014 09:22 |  #36

I buy from RRS because of their support. I don't know how my phone call to Sunwayfoto would go, but I suspect it would be a good experience. I went thru the nightmare of horrible customer support with Gitzo once, I'm not willing to do it again. I have a lot of RRS gear, more than once when I've called I've had Joe (the owner) pick up the phone. Nice fellow to talk to, knows a lot about photography. I've ordered things, gotten them, decided I wanted something else and returned them with absolutely no hassle.
I'm more than willing to pay for good customer support, it's a rarity these days.




  
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Mar 22, 2014 10:33 |  #37

I'm knee deep in RRS gear as well. Did it hurt a little due to cost? Yes. Was it worth it? Yes, very much so. I have never looked back.


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Mar 22, 2014 10:49 |  #38

rick_reno wrote in post #16777194 (external link)
I'm more than willing to pay for good customer support, it's a rarity these days.

Amen to that!


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Mar 22, 2014 11:01 |  #39

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #16777350 (external link)
Amen to that!

Many many years ago my wife and I decided to have a fun bad supper and went to our favourite mom and pop chicken place. I chatted with the owner and he told me he was not in the fried chicken business, he was the customer service business. That has stuck with me to this day. So if a business messes something up and does not take the time to correct it I never get mad, I just never come back.

I too am willing to pay extra for that. If I hire a contractor and get there usual several quotes I tell them I don't nickel dime. I'm willing to pay a little extra for quality work and customer service. If you cheap out to save $500 you pay for it several times over down the road.

Also I have found if I don't buy want and get something less expensive I usually wind up regretting it. I sell what I purchased at a loss and buy what I wanted in the first place.


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Mar 22, 2014 11:04 |  #40

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #16776257 (external link)
This!

They are made in relatively low quantities for a small audience in the USA by machines costing hundreds of thousands of dollars by a company that has a payroll, R&D and marketing bills.

$150 is really not that much for such a fine chunk of anodized aluminum.

I totally get the cost... I make custom door hardware. It is what it is.

You can regularly find very high-precision, very complicated, bike parts that are CNC-produced from single blocks of airplane-grade aluminum in low quantities by US companies - but still with quite attractive prices.

The const of the machinery isn't too important - what is important is how many hours/day the machinery can be kept in use, i.e. how much equipment you can manage to produce and seell each year. The more expensive machines are faster so they can spit out more products per work day.


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Mar 22, 2014 11:18 |  #41

Bike parts and Camera accessories have quite a different audience though, but they are similar in the fact that they are niche items with a demanding customer base.

Here in Portland we have a very large group of custom bike builders. I've done work for a few of them. They are true craftsmen and tend to build bikes custom built for their customers. It is very rare to find one that makes an actual line of products (like Chris King), most build bikes using components from larger companies.


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Mar 22, 2014 11:22 |  #42

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #16777420 (external link)
Bike parts and Camera accessories have quite a different audience though, but they are similar in the fact that they are niche items with a demanding customer base.

Here in Portland we have a very large group of custom bike builders. I've done work for a few of them. They are true craftsmen and tend to build bikes custom built for their customers. It is very rare to find one that makes an actual line of products (like Chris King), most build bikes using components from larger companies.

There are lots of companies that specializes in crafting hubs, chain wheels, headsets etc. I.e. custom components, instead of custom bikes. There are lots of bike buyers who wants some components on their bike that no other guy in the bike club has. And maybe even anodized in a custom color.


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Mar 22, 2014 13:08 |  #43

Dear Board,

The truth of the matter is the pricing has more to do with what the market will bear than it has to do with production costs. Perception and image is everything. If people are willing to part with $ 180.00 for an L bracket that will be going the going rate.

I own 3 L brackets and I didn't spend close to enough money on all three to buy a new replacement for any of them. For something is supposedly heavily engineered and sophisticated the resale value of a high end L bracket is absolutely horrible.

There will always be a certain segment of the market that wants to have the latest and greatest of gear. So long as those folks don't disappear from Earth you'll never see the price of an L bracket drop to anything close to what it should be.

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Mar 22, 2014 13:32 |  #44

jtmiv wrote in post #16777612 (external link)
Dear Board,

The truth of the matter is the pricing has more to do with what the market will bear than it has to do with production costs. Perception and image is everything. If people are willing to part with $ 180.00 for an L bracket that will be going the going rate.

This.


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