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the.forumer
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Mar 23, 2014 04:53 |  #1

Hi guys,

I'm looking to upgrade my tripod+ballhead, with the following criteria:

Tripod
- Vibration dampening is most important factor
- Fast to deploy - 2nd most important factor! (makes me want to use the tripod more frequently)
- preferably under 2.5kg/travel friendly/compact when collapsed
- under $220
- 3 or 4 section
- no preference for twist/lever lock
- must have flexible centre column (reversible + 90 degree horizontal)
- hook on column is a huge plus
- sufficient to hold 6D + 70-200 f2.8L IS [But would be used with 17-40L or 100L IS most of the time]

Ballhead
- should not creep after locking into position ( my current one creeps slightly when using liveview 10x)
- lightweight a plus, without compromising too much on stability (so that it can be shared with my gorillapod)
- separate knob for locking vs panning
- big plus if the combo allows me to do single/multi-row panoramas easily
- under $100


I've been flipping through a lot of guides and reviews and have narrowed down to the Manfrotto 190XPRO3, or the Vanguard Alta series. Currently leaning towards the Vanguard as it is cheaper, has a more flexible centre column and features a spring loaded hook for extra stability. I understand Manfrotto is a trusted brand but just curious - how far away is the quality of alternative manufacturers compared to them?

Would be more than happy to accept alternative brands/models that meet the criteria too.

Thanks in advance for your help!




  
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Mar 23, 2014 05:06 |  #2

I have Benro A2970F legs with a Manfrotto 322RC2 head, ~$300 for both and I love the set up. Many folks recommended the Manfrotto comparable on the legs but I went with Benro due to the better versatility of the center column. Have had it for about 3 months now and it's been a rock solid setup. No hook on center column, but I'd recommend these legs.


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Mar 23, 2014 05:11 |  #3

Take a look at the Benro C2680TB1.

Stay away from Manfrotto heads, they sag/droop.


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Mar 23, 2014 06:45 |  #4

Sirrith wrote in post #16779000 (external link)
Stay away from Manfrotto heads, they sag/droop.

Don't we all :lol:


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Mar 23, 2014 06:54 |  #5

Whortleberry wrote in post #16779098 (external link)
Don't we all :lol:

Some more than others ;)


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Mar 23, 2014 09:09 |  #6

Whortleberry wrote in post #16779098 (external link)
Don't we all :lol:

always thought Manfrotto is trusted for both legs and head - for example the 498RC2.

what other solid contenders do we have currently? :cool:




  
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Mar 23, 2014 09:11 |  #7

Sirrith wrote in post #16779000 (external link)
Take a look at the Benro C2680TB1.

Stay away from Manfrotto heads, they sag/droop.

thanks for the advice. would likely head for alu options as I can't stomach the cost of CF :(




  
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Mar 23, 2014 09:46 |  #8

The only ballhead I have found that doesn't creep is rrs bh-55, and I bought and sold a lot of them before trying it.




  
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Mar 23, 2014 09:48 |  #9

rick_reno wrote in post #16779436 (external link)
The only ballhead I have found that doesn't creep is rrs bh-55, and I bought and sold a lot of them before trying it.

that's almost 5x my budget for a ballhead - any alternative affordable option please? :D




  
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Mar 23, 2014 10:36 |  #10

Dear the.former,

Take a look at the Triopo RS3 ballhead. You can buy it along with a clamp that is compatible with both Arca-Swiss and Manfrotto quick release plates for under $ 100.00. I believe you will need a Desmond DBA01 clamp?

You'll need to convert the clamp yourself but there are videos out there that explain the process. Take a look at the review below and look at the other video on converting the top mount from a threaded connection to a QR compatible clamp.

http://www.scvphotoide​as.com …s-3-ball-head-review.html (external link)

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Mar 23, 2014 11:58 |  #11

If you expand your budget just a little bit you can start looking at the Sunwayfoto brand of ball heads. I borrowed one (a *36 model) and I was quite impressed with it. An FB-36 with an Arca-swiss clamp is $146 at B&H, larger sizes (which you should consider) is a little more.

I suggest you try to go the "right" way from the start and don't make the same mistake I did - I got the Manfrotto quick release system some years ago and replacing it all with the more versatile (and in my opinion superior) Arca-Swiss style quick releases was an expensive affair.




  
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Mar 23, 2014 13:09 |  #12

Dear Hawkan,

That's the whole point of the Desmond clamp. You can get a dual purpose clamp and use both Arca-Swiss and Manfrotto plates until you settle on one style without having to go through the expense of switching everything over at one time.

http://www.amazon.com …A-01-Tripod/dp/B008G394U0 (external link)

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Mar 23, 2014 14:21 |  #13

jtmiv wrote in post #16779881 (external link)
Dear Hawkan,

That's the whole point of the Desmond clamp.

Thanks Tim, I'll check it out. I haven't been impressed with the one Desmond brand product I have ever handled, a nodal rail. It appeared to differ some in dimensions so it wouldn't fit without adjustment to my RRS clamps (Sunwayfoto and Hejnar appeared to work better). I wasn't too impressed with it but this at least looks inventive!




  
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Mar 23, 2014 18:50 |  #14

the.forumer wrote in post #16779376 (external link)
thanks for the advice. would likely head for alu options as I can't stomach the cost of CF :(

Your budget is $320, the C2680 is $350 ;)

http://www.holgacamera​.com …-carbon-fiber-tripod-kit/ (external link)

And Manfrotto heads aren't known for being rock solid. They're known for not being that great, actually.


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Mar 23, 2014 19:16 |  #15

Another vote for the A2970F. It meets and exceeds (in some cases) your specs. I've had mine for more than 2 years and it can do the job required with ease. Because it is a 3 section pod, it is very sturdy but is about 26 inches in length (collapsed).

Did I mention it is only $154. Also comes in CF but is $200 more.


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