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Any of you use only primes for weddings?

 
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Mar 20, 2014 20:18 |  #61

FWIW as far as looking cool goes... my new 4 camera harness setup for weddings (2 zooms and 2 primes mainly) recently had me being compared to Neo from the Matrix when he walked into the lobby with Trinity ready to kick some Agent ass. Can't really get much cooler than that :D


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Mar 20, 2014 21:58 |  #62

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #16773891 (external link)
And here I was thinking it was about the end result... the pictures... All the above are just tools to get from A (seeing a picture) to B (capturing/creating that picture).

I wholeheartedly agree with you, but will play devil's advocate and point out that your ability to translate what you see in your mind, and what others see on an image, is often highly dependent on the equipment you have available. If this weren't the case, we'd all be shooting with our smartphones.

i.e., if you have a busy background, and are stuck with a slow zoom, then your ability to visually separate your subject from the background the way you do mentally when you interpret the scene is hindered.

or if the 'story' of the scene in your mind is highly driven by the interplay between your subject and environment, and you're stuck with a longish prime that compresses the background elements, your ability to translate your vision is hindered there as well.


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Mar 20, 2014 22:20 |  #63

And then for some it's not missing shots but seeing different shots. Understanding your vision and what works best for that is key no matter what that is. Some of the really great wedding photographers of all time shot with Blads and Leica Ms. Some still do. Theres a big world outside POTN and DSLRs and a lot of photographers doing amazing work with all kinds of different equipment. Again it should be about finding what works for you and really learning how to use that. Proof and what counts is always and only in the work.




  
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Mar 20, 2014 23:01 |  #64

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #16773919 (external link)
FWIW as far as looking cool goes... my new 4 camera harness setup for weddings (2 zooms and 2 primes mainly) recently had me being compared to Neo from the Matrix when he walked into the lobby with Trinity ready to kick some Agent ass. Can't really get much cooler than that :D

Picture or it did not happen Peter :}


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Mar 20, 2014 23:17 |  #65

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Picture or it did not happen Peter :}

Kevin just combine this

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Mar 20, 2014 23:34 |  #66

Can I see them on Neo with 4 bodies please :)


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Mar 21, 2014 15:48 |  #67

Wow this sure went downhill fast. LOL


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Mar 22, 2014 13:27 |  #68

Last year I shot a wedding with only the 40mm pancake. Admittedly, I wasn't the hired photographer and I definitely missed a few shots, but I didn't find the experience as limiting as expected. The key to using primes in a fast-paced event setting is to have multiple camera bodies, but most people seem to recommend 2+ DSLRs for weddings anyway, regardless of lens choice. Of course a zoom is going to offer more flexibility in terms of focal length - to what degree this is desirable is debatable. In theory, the photographer will be able to instinctively "see" what combination of focal length and camera position is ideal, but with a zoom I often find myself neglecting the camera position and simply zooming to obtain the "ideal" framing, often at the expense of ideal perspective.

Cost is another important issue. A 2-zoom setup with f/2.8 aperture would run me over $2000 on a crop camera. Or, for $1000, I could cover most of the bases with a 28mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.8. Another possible option is "prime wide, zoom long." The wider focal lengths are usually easier to "foot-zoom" than long lenses, and thus one may want to use a selection of wide-normal primes along with a telezoom. Of course, all depends on the situation and skills of the photographer.


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Mar 24, 2014 01:18 |  #69

As much as I love primes, I it seems crazy to me to limit yourself to ONLY primes for paid weddings.


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Mar 24, 2014 10:43 |  #70

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As much as I love primes, I it seems crazy to me to limit yourself to ONLY primes for paid weddings.

Don't think of it as limiting. Every lens has things it does well and things it does poorly. Focus on the things it does well.

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How do you think that company is 'limited' by just using primes. A lot of their exif is intact.


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Mar 24, 2014 17:33 |  #71

Thomas Campbell wrote in post #16782268 (external link)
Don't think of it as limiting. Every lens has things it does well and things it does poorly. Focus on the things it does well.

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How do you think that company is 'limited' by just using primes. A lot of their exif is intact.

I do see it as limiting. Not saying Ben doesn't do a great job, but the thought that goes through my mind is... "Imagine what he could do if he used those skills at 16mm? Or 200mm?" It would be a SUPERSET of what he currently delivers. Not worse. It could only be bigger and better. He's got the skills. He's got the eye. Adding unlimited focal lengths to his arsenal is not going to ruin his photography.

THAT is why I find it to be ridiculous. Why oh why does he shoot only at two focal lengths?


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Mar 24, 2014 17:40 |  #72

It's about seeing at certain F/Ls and some can do it well and others have other ways of working but don't think it isn't working for him or others just because it's outside your experience. The best by far wedding photographer I ever knew shot with tow Leica M 3s. A 35mm lens on one and a 50 mm lens on the other and he was doing amazing photojournalist type work in the Monte Zucker days.

So find what works for you and use it but don't try and second guess what works for others just like others shouldn't do that to you. The work is what matters.




  
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Mar 24, 2014 17:59 |  #73

I'm sure Ben has a set of zooms. I don't use them at every wedding, but I certainly bring two zooms just in case I want/need them.

Why do you only shoot at such slow apertures of 2.8 and worse? Don't you find that limiting?

Personally, I wouldn't use 16mm for much. I don't like the distortion.

So find what works for you and use it but don't try and second guess what works for others just like others shouldn't do that to you. The work is what matters.

This exactly.

I've been shooting mainly primes for several years. I haven't found it limiting at all.


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Mar 24, 2014 18:22 |  #74

Thomas Campbell wrote in post #16783420 (external link)
I'm sure Ben has a set of zooms. I don't use them at every wedding, but I certainly bring two zooms just in case I want/need them.

Why do you only shoot at such slow apertures of 2.8 and worse? Don't you find that limiting?

Personally, I wouldn't use 16mm for much. I don't like the distortion.

This exactly.

I've been shooting mainly primes for several years. I haven't found it limiting at all.

I don't only shoot at 2.8 and "worse" (which is an extremely biased and narrow minded way of describing it), in fact I shoot at 1.8 and wider most of the day.

I said, his work is great. I agree to that.

I just think with his skill and vision, he could blow the doors off, say, a 14mm lens. You say why should he, but I say, why not? With someone at that level of experience, it would just be a very interesting exercise to observe.

I'm not making a statement of how his art is lacking! Don't take the offensive. No wonder this thread got so derailed. I just think, shooting a bit outside of his regular routine would be inspirational. Maybe even mind blowing. But as long as one is limiting what they shoot with, we'll never know. Man, I would LOVE to get a wedding shot at 1800mm, or with that 8mm Nikon fisheye. Why the hell not?

I'm just damn curious. That is all. Haven't you ever asked yourself, "I wonder what would happen if..." ??


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Mar 24, 2014 18:34 |  #75

And a prime only user might wonder what a photographer that isn't a prime only might be able to do if he was prime only.




  
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