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Mar 24, 2014 13:42 |  #9856

sirquack wrote in post #16782130 (external link)
Dixie, I think Seth may be on to the solution.


I think once you find the basic settings you like, you will really like what your camera can and will produce for you.

Thanks Ron and Seth. I will try a lot more practicing, and a lot of experimenting with processing. I'll get it, given enough time.

It doesn't help, I suppose, that I was out on a little photo trip with my brother who just bought a Panasonic Lumix super-zoom of some kind. We both took photos of a heron, at full zoom. The bird in my photo was about the size of the eye in his photo, viewed at 100% for both. I know, unfair comparison LOL Just jealous of his zoom capability.


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Mar 24, 2014 15:39 |  #9857

MidnightRook wrote in post #16782735 (external link)
I think a couple of more issues are:
1: taking the photos in very harsh sunlight (everything looks flat in that)
2: heavy cropping
3: shooting with the aperture wide open

The kit lens can is not known for being the sharpest lens, but shooting wide open and also cropping into photos will compound this weakness. At 55mm, try stopping down to maybe F8. Also, try to shoot when your subject is in the shade, create some shade, or shoot when it's overcast. If you get the light right, try setting your camera to full auto and see what that looks like.

Sometimes it's the content itself that needs to be improved and not so much the camera functions. Improving both is always the goal, though.

Also terrific advice!


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Mar 24, 2014 15:45 |  #9858

nonetheweisser wrote in post #16783048 (external link)
Also terrific advice!

:) Thanks


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Mar 24, 2014 23:36 |  #9859

MidnightRook wrote in post #16782735 (external link)
I think a couple of more issues are:
1: taking the photos in very harsh sunlight (everything looks flat in that)
2: heavy cropping
3: shooting with the aperture wide open

The kit lens can is not known for being the sharpest lens, but shooting wide open and also cropping into photos will compound this weakness. At 55mm, try stopping down to maybe F8. Also, try to shoot when your subject is in the shade, create some shade, or shoot when it's overcast. If you get the light right, try setting your camera to full auto and see what that looks like.

Sometimes it's the content itself that needs to be improved and not so much the camera functions. Improving both is always the goal, though.

Thanks for the advice. I'm trying to soak up as much info as I can. It's been years since I last used a SLR, so have forgotten much of what little I did know. For instance, the relation between aperture, depth of field, and image sharpness :oops:

I'm not clear on how cropping affects the sharpness ?


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Mar 25, 2014 07:34 |  #9860

Cropping only effects the sharpness due to the fact that you are in essence blowing up the image. So the more you crop the more you get bigger pixels and lose some of the sharpness you get from the original image. Or at least that is the way I look at it anyway.


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Mar 25, 2014 08:07 |  #9861

dixiedawn wrote in post #16784150 (external link)
Thanks for the advice. I'm trying to soak up as much info as I can. It's been years since I last used a SLR, so have forgotten much of what little I did know. For instance, the relation between aperture, depth of field, and image sharpness :oops:

I'm not clear on how cropping affects the sharpness ?

The larger the aperture (smaller F-number), the shallower the depth of field. Wider angle lens, as well as physically coming closer to the subject all cause a narrower depth of field.

As far as image sharpness, some lenses are very sharp wide open, but from what I've seen, stopping down two stops usually gives you the optimum sharpness on the lens. But too much sharpness can be unflattering, especially in portraits.

And I agree with Ron. :)


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Mar 25, 2014 09:51 as a reply to  @ MidnightRook's post |  #9862

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Gull portrait.

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Mar 25, 2014 12:23 |  #9863

GreenJeans, that is one interesting looking gull. I have never personally seen one with those particular markings on the head.


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Mar 25, 2014 15:27 |  #9864

A pretty tight crop from the original photo

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Mar 25, 2014 20:22 |  #9865

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GreenJeans, that is one interesting looking gull. I have never personally seen one with those particular markings on the head.

Ron, These are "Laughing Gulls" and they are plentiful on the East Coast. The ones around this particular dock are people friendly.


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Mar 25, 2014 21:16 |  #9866

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I have been disappointed in my T3i for a while then I finally broke down and got Lightroom 5 and I have to say that the right post processing tool makes a world of difference.

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Mar 26, 2014 10:37 |  #9867

I am formerly from the West Coast and had never seen that particular coloration on the gulls. I will have to check it out when I head out east to visit friends in Pennsylvania hopefully this summer. It always amazes the differences in animal and plant species all over even the US, not even considering the differences overseas.


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Mar 26, 2014 13:37 as a reply to  @ sirquack's post |  #9868

Amazing shot Tenchiro!


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Mar 26, 2014 15:07 |  #9869

sirquack wrote in post #16787708 (external link)
...I will have to check it out when I head out east to visit friends in Pennsylvania...

What part of Pennsylvania?


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Mar 26, 2014 15:25 |  #9870

They live just outside of Philly. We were there a little over a year ago and loved it. We plan on going out there again, hopefully this summer.


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