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Need to pick between a 70-200 2.8 ISii & 24-70 2.8II to replace... what would you do?

 
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Mar 26, 2014 20:16 |  #1

Hi guys and gals! So - I currently have a 70-200 2.8 L USM (non-IS) and 24-105 f/4 L IS.

I want to upgrade glass, and was considering the 24-70 f/2.8 L II... however, also considering finally getting the 70 - 200 2.8 L IS II. My issue is I utilize the focal length of both lenses simultaneously, about even at 50/50 - the wide angle on my 5DM3, the telephoto on my 1DIV usually - so I'm stuck wondering which one is best to upgrade...:confused:

The extra stop for wide angle would be nice - however the image stabilization on the 70-200 carries enormous appeal also... decisions, decisions.. thoughts?




  
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Mar 26, 2014 20:22 |  #2

I think the 24-70 II is a better lens by a very small margin, mainly in terms of sharpness and focal length versatility. However, I use my 70-200 II way more, and the return on investment has been significantly greater than that of a short zoom. It's my most used lens during weddings, portraits, and editorial assignments.

I had the 24-105, the 24-70 I, 24-105 (again), and the 24-70 II. I ended up selling the superb short zoom for a handful of primes (24L II, 35L, and 50L). I like moving my feet at those focal lengths, I like the subject isolation more, and I like being able to work in lower light levels. The IS on the 70-200 II lets me do this as well.

I would suggest you upgrade to the 70-200 II, keep the 24-105, and add a 35mm f/2 IS for wider lower light shooting (or more subject isolation). Those 3 lenses can handle 99% of all jobs you will have.


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Mar 26, 2014 20:34 as a reply to  @ Staszek's post |  #3

Thanks Staszek! Yes, a large array of short focal length primes are on the "future" list :D And I am leaning more towards upgrading the 70 - 200 2.8 IS II... because hand held telephotos benefit so much from the IS ability, especially when fully extended.




  
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Mar 26, 2014 20:45 |  #4

PRAchi wrote in post #16789132 (external link)
Thanks Staszek! Yes, a large array of short focal length primes are on the "future" list :D And I am leaning more towards upgrading the 70 - 200 2.8 IS II... because hand held telephotos benefit so much from the IS ability, especially when fully extended.

IS is great to steady the viewfinder at longer focal lengths. IS also allows you to shoot at much lower slower shutter speeds in dungeons when the subjects aren't moving. This is perfect for weddings and other events. I think my record for a sharp photo was ISO 12800, 1/15 sec, f/2.8, at 200mm.

I was never able to do anything close to that with my 24-70 II, which is why the 2+ stops of extra light the primes offers me is more desirable.


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Mar 26, 2014 21:02 |  #5

PRAchi wrote in post #16789095 (external link)
Hi guys and gals! So - I currently have a 70-200 2.8 L USM (non-IS) and 24-105 f/4 L IS.

I want to upgrade glass, and was considering the 24-70 f/2.8 L II... however, also considering finally getting the 70 - 200 2.8 L IS II. My issue is I utilize the focal length of both lenses simultaneously, about even at 50/50 - the wide angle on my 5DM3, the telephoto on my 1DIV usually - so I'm stuck wondering which one is best to upgrade...:confused:

The extra stop for wide angle would be nice - however the image stabilization on the 70-200 carries enormous appeal also... decisions, decisions.. thoughts?

What do you shoot?

What do your current lenses not allow you capture as you would like?

Without you saying what you want to accomplish it's just me telling you what I like. And if we leave it to that, I'd go for a Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC and keep my 24-105 until I decide whether I like the extra stop or extra reach better. Then after shooting with the Tammy decide where to go.


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Mar 26, 2014 21:58 |  #6

Like Staszek said.
Buy the 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II. It really is sharp and it has IS.


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Mar 26, 2014 22:09 |  #7

I opted for the Tamron 24-70 and the 70-200 VC models. Got both of them for $2200 which was the price of the 70-200 II.

They are 90% of the canon's and work great.


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Mar 26, 2014 22:11 |  #8

bumpintheroad wrote in post #16789187 (external link)
What do you shoot?

+ 1 on that question.

If you want amazing portraits, 70-200 IS II is a beast. I would go with that.
If you do more environmental and less portraits, the 24-70 is a good choice.



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Mar 26, 2014 22:46 |  #9

PRAchi wrote in post #16789095 (external link)
Hi guys and gals! So - I currently have a 70-200 2.8 L USM (non-IS) and 24-105 f/4 L IS.

I want to upgrade glass, and was considering the 24-70 f/2.8 L II... however, also considering finally getting the 70 - 200 2.8 L IS II. My issue is I utilize the focal length of both lenses simultaneously, about even at 50/50 - the wide angle on my 5DM3, the telephoto on my 1DIV usually - so I'm stuck wondering which one is best to upgrade...:confused:

The extra stop for wide angle would be nice - however the image stabilization on the 70-200 carries enormous appeal also... decisions, decisions.. thoughts?

Heya,

Replace both with the Tamron 24-70 F2.8 VC and Tamron 70-200 F2.8 VC for the same price as your single lens upgrade instead?

Based on having a 200mm lens without IS, I would opt to get IS onto a telephoto lens, before worrying about a single stop of aperture on a normal/medium zoom (and also you lose IS on the 24-70 if you move from the 24-105). It really comes down to what you shoot. Personally I find a big difference on telephoto with and without IS. But medium zooms? Pfft, don't need IS there (me, someone else might).

I'd get the duo of Tamrons with your budget. Get the best of both worlds for the same cost and frankly no less quality.

Or, if you must stay with Canon, getting IS onto your telephoto is more important to me than 1 stop aperture on a medium zoom, and loss of IS there.

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Mar 26, 2014 23:25 |  #10

You have 2 great lenses and I would be reluctant to replace either. I guess I would give the nod to the 70-200 f'/2.8L IS II.
I speak from experience having owned all the Canons.


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Mar 26, 2014 23:30 as a reply to  @ Tapeman's post |  #11

Staszek wrote in post #16789110 (external link)
I think the 24-70 II is a better lens by a very small margin, mainly in terms of sharpness and focal length versatility. However, I use my 70-200 II way more, and the return on investment has been significantly greater than that of a short zoom. It's my most used lens during weddings, portraits, and editorial assignments.

I had the 24-105, the 24-70 I, 24-105 (again), and the 24-70 II. I ended up selling the superb short zoom for a handful of primes (24L II, 35L, and 50L). I like moving my feet at those focal lengths, I like the subject isolation more, and I like being able to work in lower light levels. The IS on the 70-200 II lets me do this as well.

I would suggest you upgrade to the 70-200 II, keep the 24-105, and add a 35mm f/2 IS for wider lower light shooting (or more subject isolation). Those 3 lenses can handle 99% of all jobs you will have.

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Like Staszek said.
Buy the 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II. It really is sharp and it has IS.



I love, love, LOVE, (girl....) LOVE my 70-200mm F2.8 IS2.

That lens, has to be at least, one of canon's sharpest 3 lenses. I am NOT convinced there is a sharper lens that canon makes that is even 1/10th as flexible WHILE being sharper.

To put the 70-200mm IS2's sharpness into perspective, I noticed an increase in sharpness...when I switched to medium format digital. But not a large one.


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Mar 27, 2014 02:43 |  #12
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They both are incredible.

You already own both zooms, so it's not a question of which you should buy first before you have owned any lens at all. It's a question of which you should upgrade first. So, my answer is to upgrade the 70-200 first, because you will find the image stabilization on those focal lengths far more useful than they are on the 24-105. It really sucks being stuck at shooting no lower than 1/150 for most shots. You can realistically shoot handheld at 1/20 at 200mm if you brace the camera and lens against your shoulder.


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Mar 27, 2014 03:01 |  #13

Adharr wrote in post #16789627 (external link)
You can realistically shoot handheld at 1/20 at 200mm if you brace the camera and lens against your shoulder.

I wouldn't say that it could shoot that slow... But the 70-200mm is a beast in its own right !!


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Mar 27, 2014 03:07 |  #14

Nick_Reading.UK wrote in post #16789649 (external link)
I wouldn't say that it could shoot that slow... But the 70-200mm is a beast in its own right !!

I have. Good breathing techniques, a stationary subject, and great IS helps work wonders.


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Mar 27, 2014 03:24 |  #15

70-200 2.8 IS II is hard to beat and would be my choice.

I picked up a nearly new 1DIV recently and my 70-200 is stuck on it, its staring right at me across the room right now :)


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