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Anyone a fan of this type of processing?

 
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Mar 28, 2014 13:55 |  #16

Christopher Steven b wrote in post #16793172 (external link)
I also don't dig the image. But to bring a little bit of dissent to the thread, I think you would be crazy to stop an artistic pursuit because some people (on the innernet !) don't like this particular rendition. Maybe we have bad taste. Maybe this particular piece is in fact bad but through refinement over time the process could result in images that are universally lauded--or not. At the very least, you're experimenting, which is great.

^^^^^^ This.


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Mar 28, 2014 14:08 |  #17

Christopher Steven b wrote in post #16793172 (external link)
I also don't dig the image. But to bring a little bit of dissent to the thread, I think you would be crazy to stop an artistic pursuit because some people (on the innernet !) don't like this particular rendition. Maybe we have bad taste. Maybe this particular piece is in fact bad but through refinement over time the process could result in images that are universally lauded--or not. At the very least, you're experimenting, which is great.

You have a point. But the counterpoint is that far too many people get caught up in applying crappy post effects in pursuit of creating art. It inhibits growth in the actual artistry of photography which gives you a much better basis to then explore expression.




  
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Mar 28, 2014 14:15 |  #18

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You have a point. But the counterpoint is that far too many people get caught up in applying crappy post effects in pursuit of creating art. It inhibits growth in the actual artistry of photography which gives you a much better basis to then explore expression.

Many people get "caught up" in making crappy photographs. Many get "caught up" in making crappy oil paintings. That doesn't inhibit the growth of actual artistry in photography or painting. It causes the growth in artistry when some of them learn and improve. Same thing with people who experiment in "painterly" processing of images. Some folks get good at it.
I would submit that the inhibition results from people simply dismissing something that's different from what makes them comfortable.


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Mar 28, 2014 14:22 |  #19

fine line between art and accident.


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Mar 28, 2014 14:36 |  #20

Nathan wrote in post #16793238 (external link)
fine line between art and accident.

Often an invisible one. My son is an art historian. He will take either side of that argument of what is art and destroy you. :D


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Mar 28, 2014 16:06 as a reply to  @ bpiper7's post |  #21

I am not a fan of the processing but agree that it can be fun to make over-the-top changes.


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Mar 28, 2014 16:09 as a reply to  @ bpiper7's post |  #22

I would also suggest that people who dismiss with inhibition the comfortable results of actual artistry by universally lauded people different from what makes them submit cause refined growths, although it's sometimes the case that artistic growths by comfortably inhibited actual artists suggest that people who dismiss universally lauded refinement should submit.


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Mar 28, 2014 16:17 |  #23

Tedder wrote in post #16793489 (external link)
I would also suggest that people who dismiss with inhibition the comfortable results of actual artistry by universally lauded people different from what makes them submit cause refined growths, although it's sometimes the case that artistic growths by comfortably inhibited actual artists suggest that people who dismiss universally lauded refinement should submit.

Wow.. trying to read that gave me a headache! :lol:


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Mar 28, 2014 16:19 |  #24

1Tanker wrote in post #16793505 (external link)
Wow.. trying to read that gave me a headache! :lol:

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one.




  
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Mar 28, 2014 16:30 |  #25

I'll pass.


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Mar 28, 2014 16:32 |  #26

Tedder wrote in post #16793489 (external link)
I would also suggest that people who dismiss with inhibition the comfortable results of actual artistry by universally lauded people different from what makes them submit cause refined growths, although it's sometimes the case that artistic growths by comfortably inhibited actual artists suggest that people who dismiss universally lauded refinement should submit.

Can you rephrase this in English please.  :p


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Mar 28, 2014 16:46 |  #27

I find this a very challenging topic to be clear about. If person 'x' finds images a,b,c artful, and if a,b,c have a certain aesthetic (deep vignetting, selective color), I think it's perfectly reasonable for x to apply those effects to their images. In a sense they are arbitrarily applied, I agree, but in a sense they aren't: x is attempting to engage in the language as expressed by images a,b,c.

If we can tease 'content' from 'style' & 'form' -- and I think that's hard to do, I agree that the person engaging in this process is likely failing to think about their contribution to content and certainly style. But I think that's okay.

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You have a point. But the counterpoint is that far too many people get caught up in applying crappy post effects in pursuit of creating art. It inhibits growth in the actual artistry of photography which gives you a much better basis to then explore expression.



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Mar 28, 2014 17:10 |  #28

1Tanker wrote in post #16793505 (external link)
Wow.. trying to read that gave me a headache! :lol:

Sorry. My aim was not to cause headaches but to contribute an additional blast of hot air.


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Mar 28, 2014 18:21 |  #29

Heh!

You should realize, Jarvis, that posting stuff like this in a "General Photography"discussion sub-forum will, well, tend to invite mostly critics, as we have seen!:)!

However, there are spots where you might get more meaningful interaction, both in critiques and maybe some creative ideas.

Here's one thread to check out:

https://photography-on-the.net …7130&highlight=​manipulate


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Mar 28, 2014 21:44 |  #30

art wouldn't be art if it didn't create discussion... lol... in some regard, discourse and dissent sets the boundaries that art push...

still don't like the processing and don't know what "type" it is... playing with settings and calling it art isn't art. i did that in high school when digital media was very new... easy A


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