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Mar 31, 2014 15:13 |  #1

I'm looking to build some apple boxes for myself, since it's too costly to purchase and import them to my country. I'd like to know if all 4 sizes are very useful or should I just build certain ones. I'm also considering building couple sets of nested apple boxes to help save space.

If anyone has DIY tips let me know.


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Mar 31, 2014 19:26 |  #2

OK - I guess you'll be working in metric, but here's one system...

Full Apple (also referred to as just an "Apple Box") 8"×20"×12"
Half Apple 4"×20"×12"
Quarter Apple 2"×20"×12"
Pancake (Eighth Apple) 1"×20"×12"
Mini Full: 10 x 12 x 8"


These won't nest, but can be combined to match the height of another.


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Apr 01, 2014 08:42 |  #3

Hi Gareth,

Hmmm... just a thought, unless one is utilizing for lighting, it may have helped you more if perhaps this subject would have been posted under "Accessories". Regardless...

Obviously suitable sizes depends on your applications, style & individuality - I have a complete set of Matthews FULL set (of 4 boxes) and Matthews MINI set (of 4 boxes),
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …1&N=4037060737+​4291344043 (external link) (this link has size/dimensions in both imperial & metric)
but rarely use any of them, and don’t use the Quarter(2”) or Eighth(1”).

For in studio and never on location, I find these the most useful sizes for general use, props & posing:
Full Apple (20"×12"x 8”)
Half Apple (20”×12"x 4”)
Mini Full Apple (10” x 12"x 8”)
Mini Half Apple (10” x 12”x 4”)

You likely are already aware of these nesting ones:
http://www.cinemagadge​ts.com/productdetail/4​431 (external link) (link indicates dimensions)
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=JF_qgUzTaWw (external link) (1:55 minute video)
but it may give you some guidelines for size, or DIY nesting design.

FOR POSING…
Everyone has their own solutions,
if I need a raiser, to prop a person up by a few inches, or put something under a person’s foot to give them a more natural /relaxed pose, another DIY option: I find just a piece of say 12” circular or square styrofoam covered in black fabric works great! (which you can obtain from a craft or hardware store). Effective, still professional-looking and much much less weight than heavy apple boxes.

Also for posing, rather than apple boxes, I find useful
In Studio-
these lighter weight and nesting Lastolite Posing Tubs:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …g_Tubs_with_Cus​hions.html (external link)
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=-WMubPGM5tA (external link) (12:57 minute product video)
I choked at the price, even numerous years ago when I bought them (which at that time it was a set of 7 tubs), but I truly find them one of the most valuable/useful items for my studio!!

On Location-
Clear dry-cleaning bags (compact; placed under subject, protects subject's garmets including white wedding dresses/bridal party) with creative use of sites existing surfaces, contours or topography.
or
A small step-ladder, such as
2 ft/3-Step Werner (this is the one I use for location posing since good function/weight trade-off):
http://www.homedepot.c​om …uty-Rating-150B/100658398 (external link)
(Wt: 5.5 lbs; light-weight, inexpensive)

2 ft/2-Step Little Giant (just fold or remove the top handle):
http://www.homedepot.c​om …-Rating-10210BA/100430062 (external link)
(Wt: 15.4 lbs; very sturdy, nice wide steps, but a bit heavy).

3ft/3-Step Little Giant (just fold or remove the top handle):
http://www.homedepot.c​om …-Rating-10310BA/100430063 (external link)
(Wt: 21.4 lbs; very sturdy, nice wide steps, but heavy)

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=hAL03CXxhpk (external link) (see 56:05 minute point of this 1:11:49 minute B&H/Andy Marcus video)
with a colored cloth, (I use a black cloth), over it to use for an individual, couple, or say a bride, bride/groom, or as a base of the pyramid for a small group say up to 5-7 people. Again, you may find lighter than apple boxes, to carry on-location. (It also is helpful for me to stand on sometimes when shooting, as I am only petite 5ft 2in).

I know you inquired about Apple Boxes - I was just doing a paradigm shift/"out-of-box" (pun intented) thinking with you. Maybe something to think about. Hope it helps, good luck.
Just one view….

Mary


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Apr 02, 2014 09:22 |  #4

Thanks BTNorris. I'm comfortable working in both metric and imperial/standard measurements. Do you find all of those sizes useful?

BTNorris wrote in post #16800214 (external link)
OK - I guess you'll be working in metric, but here's one system...

Full Apple (also referred to as just an "Apple Box") 8"×20"×12"
Half Apple 4"×20"×12"
Quarter Apple 2"×20"×12"
Pancake (Eighth Apple) 1"×20"×12"
Mini Full: 10 x 12 x 8"


These won't nest, but can be combined to match the height of another.

Thanks happy2010 for such a detailed response! :) You're right, I should've posted this in the Accessories section. I'll definitely look at building the half and full apple boxes. I may even build the mini versions since you find them useful at times. I am considering making nested boxes since space is a premium and they would fit better in my car if I ever had to carry them.
The posing tubs look awesome, but would be too costly at this time for me to import. Perhaps later on I'll invest in a set.
I love the idea of using styrofoam as I can get that locally. That can certainly work for me.
I'll look in to the small step ladder as well. I can get those locally at reasonable prices.

happy2010 wrote in post #16801271 (external link)
Hi Gareth,

Hmmm... just a thought, unless one is utilizing for lighting, it may have helped you more if perhaps this subject would have been posted under "Accessories". Regardless...

Obviously suitable sizes depends on your applications, style & individuality - I have a complete set of Matthews FULL set (of 4 boxes) and Matthews MINI set (of 4 boxes),
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …1&N=4037060737+​4291344043 (external link) (this link has size/dimensions in both imperial & metric)
but rarely use any of them, and don’t use the Quarter(2”) or Eighth(1”).

For in studio and never on location, I find these the most useful sizes for general use, props & posing:
Full Apple (20"×12"x 8”)
Half Apple (20”×12"x 4”)
Mini Full Apple (10” x 12"x 8”)
Mini Half Apple (10” x 12”x 4”)

You likely are already aware of these nesting ones:
http://www.cinemagadge​ts.com/productdetail/4​431 (external link) (link indicates dimensions)
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=JF_qgUzTaWw (external link) (1:55 minute video)
but it may give you some guidelines for size, or DIY nesting design.

FOR POSING…
Everyone has their own solutions,
if I need a raiser, to prop a person up by a few inches, or put something under a person’s foot to give them a more natural /relaxed pose, another DIY option: I find just a piece of say 12” circular or square styrofoam covered in black fabric works great! (which you can obtain from a craft or hardware store). Effective, still professional-looking and much much less weight than heavy apple boxes.

Also for posing, rather than apple boxes, I find useful
In Studio-
these lighter weight and nesting Lastolite Posing Tubs:
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …g_Tubs_with_Cus​hions.html (external link)
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=-WMubPGM5tA (external link) (12:57 minute product video)
I choked at the price, even numerous years ago when I bought them (which at that time it was a set of 7 tubs), but I truly find them one of the most valuable/useful items for my studio!!

On Location-
Clear dry-cleaning bags (compact; placed under subject, protects subject's garmets including white wedding dresses/bridal party) with creative use of sites existing surfaces, contours or topography.
or
A small step-ladder, such as
2 ft/3-Step Werner (this is the one I use for location posing since good function/weight trade-off):
http://www.homedepot.c​om …uty-Rating-150B/100658398 (external link)
(Wt: 5.5 lbs; light-weight, inexpensive)

2 ft/2-Step Little Giant (just fold or remove the top handle):
http://www.homedepot.c​om …-Rating-10210BA/100430062 (external link)
(Wt: 15.4 lbs; very sturdy, nice wide steps, but a bit heavy).

3ft/3-Step Little Giant (just fold or remove the top handle):
http://www.homedepot.c​om …-Rating-10310BA/100430063 (external link)
(Wt: 21.4 lbs; very sturdy, nice wide steps, but heavy)

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=hAL03CXxhpk (external link) (see 56:05 minute point of this 1:11:49 minute B&H/Andy Marcus video)
with a colored cloth, (I use a black cloth), over it to use for an individual, couple, or say a bride, bride/groom, or as a base of the pyramid for a small group say up to 5-7 people. Again, you may find lighter than apple boxes, to carry on-location. (It also is helpful for me to stand on sometimes when shooting, as I am only petite 5ft 2in).

I know you inquired about Apple Boxes - I was just doing a paradigm shift/"out-of-box" (pun intented) thinking with you. Maybe something to think about. Hope it helps, good luck.
Just one view….

Mary


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Apr 02, 2014 10:13 |  #5

Dear Gareth,

I think your idea of the nested apple boxes would be convenient & space saving.

Also, the MINI Full & MINI Half sizes maybe good/useful for you if you need something discrete for a subject to sit on without it showing, or if you want to put a prop on, (such as a lamp, etc.) without the apple box dominating the viewer's attention. (i.e. a smallish footprint/area).

Regarding posing raisers made of Styrofoam:
if you decide to pursue a DIY - for versatility, you may want to have say a 2” thick & a couple of 3” thick. As I mentioned in a previous post, I find a handy size is a 12” diameter circle or square.

Good luck with your project!

Mary


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