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Apr 01, 2014 17:03 |  #1

I rented a 5D mark iii...............I 've used a 7D for all my dance comps shoots over the last three years and have always gotten good results. This time I decided to rent a 5D 3 and put it through its paces. Here is what I found vs my 7D when shooting dance comps.

1. The focusing systen on the 5D 3 is'nt better than the 7D's.....Its "WAY" better. I took 428 shots and missed focus on 3. Three shots, and those 3 were not unusable if I really needed them. I really liked the red focus spot indicator to instantly see where I had focused the shot. I didnt know it had until I used it. Very nice feature


2. ISO performance on the 5D 3 is much much better. No contest for this type of shooting. It performed so well I was able to shoot @ 1/1000 SS @ ISO 1600 for alot of the dances. On the 7D I would struggle to maintain 1/500 of a sec @ ISO 6400 at the same venue in the past.

3. The RAW files were amazing. One dance in particular a girl was wearing a Wedding dress. In the shot her gown was blown out bad and I figured it was a not a keeper. In post I decided to see what I could do with it. The ability to recover the dress was unreal. I brought it back down to reveal a beautiful shot.

I still love the 7D. It is a great camera however the 5D mark 3 lived up to all the hype I have read about it. I am sold on this camera.

So you ask "How did I mess up"? ...............Now I have to buy one.

Anyone looking for a kidney? I may have one for sale.




  
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Apr 01, 2014 17:56 |  #2

flashpoint99 wrote in post #16802442 (external link)
I rented a 5D mark iii...............I 've used a 7D for all my dance comps shoots over the last three years and have always gotten good results. This time I decided to rent a 5D 3 and put it through its paces. Here is what I found vs my 7D when shooting dance comps.

1. The focusing systen on the 5D 3 is'nt better than the 7D's.....Its "WAY" better. I took 428 shots and missed focus on 3. Three shots, and those 3 were not unusable if I really needed them. I really liked the red focus spot indicator to instantly see where I had focused the shot. I didnt know it had until I used it. Very nice feature


2. ISO performance on the 5D 3 is much much better. No contest for this type of shooting. It performed so well I was able to shoot @ 1/1000 SS @ ISO 1600 for alot of the dances. On the 7D I would struggle to maintain 1/500 of a sec @ ISO 6400 at the same venue in the past.

3. The RAW files were amazing. One dance in particular a girl was wearing a Wedding dress. In the shot her gown was blown out bad and I figured it was a not a keeper. In post I decided to see what I could do with it. The ability to recover the dress was unreal. I brought it back down to reveal a beautiful shot.

I still love the 7D. It is a great camera however the 5D mark 3 lived up to all the hype I have read about it. I am sold on this camera.

So you ask "How did I mess up"? ...............Now I have to buy one.

Anyone looking for a kidney? I may have one for sale.

I'm a little confused about your comment about iso performance. Light is light regardless of which camera you are using. If you are shooting perfect exposure at 1/500 2.8 at 6400 that should be the settings with the 5d as well.


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Apr 01, 2014 18:10 |  #3

One of the advantages of the FF sensors is that they have larger pixels and therefore a better signal to noise ratio for each one. This gives better results at higher ISOs vs the smaller pixels on the crop sensors or P&S sensors. So, all things equal in the exposure, you have much more manageable noise at any ISO on a FF sensor over a crop sensor.


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Apr 01, 2014 18:21 |  #4

Well, it looks as if some cameras take better pictures than others after all, huh? :)


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Apr 01, 2014 18:23 |  #5

It all comes down to how you use your equipment. If you got good shots out the 5d 3 with that success rate then it just might be for you


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Apr 01, 2014 18:29 |  #6

I'd agree that the OP should clarify the remarks about ISO "performance". the OP says:

"ISO performance on the 5D 3 is much much better. No contest for this type of shooting. It performed so well I was able to shoot @ 1/1000 SS @ ISO 1600 for alot of the dances. On the 7D I would struggle to maintain 1/500 of a sec @ ISO 6400 at the same venue in the past."

If the values you post are correct, that is "1/1000 SS @ ISO 1600" for the 5D and then "1/500 of a sec @ ISO 6400" for the 7D, well, I'm not sure what you are referring to..., unless you are saying that you got good recovery from underexposing the shot compared to the 7D shot? Or is it possible that the 5D shot was actually a higher ISO than 1600/6400? Or...?


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Apr 01, 2014 20:02 |  #7

flashpoint99 wrote in post #16802442 (external link)
2. ISO performance on the 5D 3 is much much better. No contest for this type of shooting. It performed so well I was able to shoot @ 1/1000 SS @ ISO 1600 for alot of the dances. On the 7D I would struggle to maintain 1/500 of a sec @ ISO 6400 at the same venue in the past.

That just means there was more light or a wider aperture when you used the 5DIII.

ISO 1600 on the 5DIII with the same aperture will produce the same shutter speed as ISO 1600 on a 7D or any other camera.


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Apr 02, 2014 09:22 |  #8

Sirrith wrote in post #16802828 (external link)
That just means there was more light or a wider aperture when you used the 5DIII.

Or, it's a very good example of the hyperbole that is endemic amongst the FF evangelists.


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Apr 02, 2014 16:03 |  #9

I remember a study, or a Candid Camera episode....where they told some kids the mashed potatoes with fudge sauce was vanilla ice cream. Most of the kids said they loved it. you believe what you want to believe and see what you want to see.


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Apr 02, 2014 16:07 |  #10

I have both and like you I concluded the 5diii blows the 7d away. I am going to sell my 7d soon and upgrade. I still have some wonderful shots with the 7d. in particular i enjoy it for outdoors




  
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