Arrgg..how to handle this...

I absolutely did not take a shot at her. I have gotten used to calling her that and now you are pointing it out that its offensive to people. so from now on ill do my best to call her birthday girl, if I call her by another offensive adjective it is purely out of habbit at this point.

But no...I wont come on....i never took a "shot" at her if thats what your saying.

porky101 wrote in post #16804577
And were the photo's not awsome? please tell me? was the client initially not happy??? the reason it went into such a mess was the "chubby" girl seems to have a personal vandetta against me. I must be honest here, the client has been a pleasure all this time, the worst thing she has said to me is "you are making it very difficult for me". No insulting, no swearing.......I believe she is actually happy...but this other girl is causing issue's for everyone.

Read you own words. There was no reason to use that phrase. You have no idea whether she will find out about this thread.

I saw this earlier and wanted to note that if she googled or somehow came across this thread...there could be problems lol Although this is a forum, it's a public forum and she doesn't have to be a "member" to see these threads/posts.

porky101 wrote in post #16804632
errr..moose..can you quote me so I can see where you are at?

Gonzo, I would never let her know that I refer to her like that...this is a forum where I am talking to you....if she was sitting here with us I definitly would not refer to her as "chubby".
But good point...Customer service.....more important than the photo's in the end it seems.

Ok dude, lets agree to disagree, you dont know how I see things from my perspective. I wont do it again. Got it. no offensive adjectives on future photo's or threads.

Lol....if she see's it? will that make matters worse?? how much worse could stuff possibly get!

porky101 wrote in post #16804651
Ok, birthday girl from now on.....When I look at a photo I try and think of the easiest way for someone to beable to recognise someone.

Very easy to do that without pointing to something someone may have issues with. Tall brunette with white shirt, short redhead with blue sundress, blonde with checkered button-up shirt, short haired girl with black high heels.

porky101 wrote in post #16804675
Ok dude, lets agree to disagree, you dont know how I see things from my perspective. I wont do it again. Got it. no offensive adjectives on future photo's or threads.

Lol....if she see's it? will that make matters worse?? how much worse could stuff possibly get!

*knock on wood* lol

You guys have no idea, that that is NOT what I see in my photo's.
I guess I see things differently...I look at height, weight, color of skin, face, age and hair. Those are the first things I notice when I see these pictures , then if I study further ill see clothes, accessories etc.

(That sounds incredibly racist of me....Color of skin and weight...maybe I should add in riligion? im kidding.....im not racist but that is what I notice the fastest and easiest to identify

porky101 wrote in post #16804675
Ok dude, lets agree to disagree, you dont know how I see things from my perspective. I wont do it again. Got it. no offensive adjectives on future photo's or threads.

Lol....if she see's it? will that make matters worse?? how much worse could stuff possibly get!

You are under the impression that your perspective matters. Your perspective is internal, its yours and yours alone. Its your actions that matter here. I've got a friend who has a heart of gold, but is unpolished and uses some pretty offensive terms for various categories of people. When he offends someone doing that, do you think they worry about his perspective?

You say you've booked your first wedding, but they don't know the charge?

porky101 wrote in post #16804482
I have a 7D and a 1,000D and a point and shoot plus my cell phone.

I dont have a second flash....do I need one? if so I will get one(Hire)...but is it neccesarry? (although the camera's all have onboard flashes incase...but those suck as you know)

I have a single battery for each body...do I need more than one battery? probably...ill organise more.

Do I need anything else?

Yes, backups for everything. How about lenses?

Engagement booked.


Wedding not booked, but pretty much looks like I will get it. Once they happy with engagement then they will probably make a formal booking.

Good point here....ye they gonna hate you and not care about anything you say.


Would I really need double lenses?

I got about 6 lenses....Wide angle, Zoom, Fixed focals.

porky101 wrote in post #16804577
the reason it went into such a mess was the "chubby" girl seems to have a personal vandetta against me.

...this has become tiresome. Grow up already. I thought after your last post here you were ready to put on the big boy pants and learnt some lesson: but it is obvious you haven't. While others are willing to give you some slack I am not.

Give the money back. Being a professional photographer is not just about taking correctly exposed photos. You can either spend the next month being a scaredy cat and not answering your phone and keeping your head down or you can swallow what's left of your pride and end this right now. You told them you were giving the money back. Don't go back on your word.

Its this kind of passive aggressive bull-crap that show why you shouldn't be in business. Of course you took a shot. No one in the real world gets "used to calling people names".

Are you ready to shoot a wedding? Absolutely not. You have the emotional maturity of a twelve year old. You have no business experience. You pose your clients based on internet articles and not from practice. You treat your clients like garbage. You have an over inflated opinion on the quality of your work. (And it isn't "awesome.")

Stop fouling things up for the rest of us. I can probably speak for all the other photographers here but we don't participate in these threads for any other reason but to help other photographers build successful businesses. I spent a considerable amount of trying to help you out and so have other photographers: and yet with your response you are doing the equivalent of "spitting in our faces." Before any of us waste any more time trying to help you out can you give us any reason why we should?

banquetbear, Im not going to reply to most of that rhetoric you wrote, ...then please let them speak.

Can I get link to images?