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Mar 31, 2014 12:00 |  #16

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It really depends on the subject and my experience. When I am at the track I get about 85% keepers. But when I head down tothe beach for surfing I get about 25% keepers as it is not my normal subject. At the wild animal park I am at about 70% keepers but when setting up the lights and trying portraits I am at bout 5% if that. lol.

Good point there, about knowing what you are shooting.

I believe Robert Capa's quote "if your pictures aren't good enough, you aren't close enough" was not talking about physical proximity to the subject, but about knowing the subject.


As an example, I used to shoot a lot of Motorsport, my parents were involved in racing, and i grew up around it. With the photography,it got to the point I could see spins, crashes and accidents happening before anyone else, I could see it in the attitude of the cars, something wasn't quite right.

I occassionally shoot football too, and it's not a sport I'm interested in, so my pics, while being acceptable, are never going to be prize winners, I just don't have the knowledge to see what's going to happen next.

Guys i see regularly who happen to shoot for agencies like Getty and AP, and who love their footy are incredible, they can see what's happening before it happens, but don't have that sixth sense at the racetrack.


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Mar 31, 2014 12:21 |  #17

I would take it even a step further that some types of shooting lend themselves to higher toss rates especially in the digital age. Using motorsports for an example. Shooting into a turn you see a spin about to happen, you snap off as many as you can get. Sometimes they work out great for a sequence shot and sometimes you are able to snag that one shot where the tire blows or the impact into the dirt runoff, etc.

Keep rates are exactly the reason I do not shoot weddings. People see my wildlife or motorsports photos and assume I can do weddings. I try to explain to them that its a completely different beast. Sort of like being a pitcher vs a right fielder in baseball. 2 different skill-sets in the same sport.


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Apr 03, 2014 00:07 |  #18

The last shoot I did of 1800 shots I had about 750 I kept.


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Apr 03, 2014 01:01 |  #19

Adharr wrote in post #16795244 (external link)
I was just curious. What is the keeper rate most of you get when you photograph anything? Like 10 shots out of 100? 1 out of 50? 45 out of 60?

I couldn't find this question posted anywhere before. It made me wonder what people here get, and what some of the pros get? Or what professionals used to get in the film days?

Thanks for your responses.


If by "keeper" you mean "what I don't delete or throw in the trash", then my keeper rate is damn near 100%.

If by "keeper" you mean "great image that actually serves some purpose rather than being stored in a box or a hard drive", then my keeper rate is damn near 0%.

The way I see it, storage is cheaper and easier than it's ever been, so I have no excuses for throwing images away. I wouldn't burn my negatives, so I'm not gonna delete my digital files.

But on the other hand, I've heard that it's good to only show one's best stuff. And if that's true, then I wager that it's true regardless of how good one's stuff is. You might be so good that EVERY image that you take is great, but realistically speaking you're only ever gonna DO anything with a small percentage of them. So you're still gonna cut it down to a small percentage of your output. That's still sort of a small "keeper rate".

Anyway, I don't really keep track of my keeper rate, because I don't care about such things. I'm not sure why it matters or why that's something I should pay attention to.




  
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Apr 03, 2014 02:40 |  #20
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Echo63 wrote in post #16799163 (external link)
Good point there, about knowing what you are shooting.

I believe Robert Capa's quote "if your pictures aren't good enough, you aren't close enough" was not talking about physical proximity to the subject, but about knowing the subject.


As an example, I used to shoot a lot of Motorsport, my parents were involved in racing, and i grew up around it. With the photography,it got to the point I could see spins, crashes and accidents happening before anyone else, I could see it in the attitude of the cars, something wasn't quite right.

I occassionally shoot football too, and it's not a sport I'm interested in, so my pics, while being acceptable, are never going to be prize winners, I just don't have the knowledge to see what's going to happen next.

Guys i see regularly who happen to shoot for agencies like Getty and AP, and who love their footy are incredible, they can see what's happening before it happens, but don't have that sixth sense at the racetrack.

Yes, I have experiment this as well.


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Clean Gene wrote in post #16806009 (external link)
If by "keeper" you mean "what I don't delete or throw in the trash", then my keeper rate is damn near 100%.

If by "keeper" you mean "great image that actually serves some purpose rather than being stored in a box or a hard drive", then my keeper rate is damn near 0%.

The way I see it, storage is cheaper and easier than it's ever been, so I have no excuses for throwing images away. I wouldn't burn my negatives, so I'm not gonna delete my digital files.

But on the other hand, I've heard that it's good to only show one's best stuff. And if that's true, then I wager that it's true regardless of how good one's stuff is. You might be so good that EVERY image that you take is great, but realistically speaking you're only ever gonna DO anything with a small percentage of them. So you're still gonna cut it down to a small percentage of your output. That's still sort of a small "keeper rate".

Anyway, I don't really keep track of my keeper rate, because I don't care about such things. I'm not sure why it matters or why that's something I should pay attention to.

I had just culled from a shoot and sent off only 25 to the client. And since I was new here, I thought I'd ask the question, since I never have asked anyone that before.


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Apr 03, 2014 15:20 |  #22

For weddings:
75% will be usable but mostly boring, 5% will be unusable exposure/composition tests, 5% would be missed focus (LOL 50L) and 15% will be the best ones delivered to the client

For Motorsports (or sports):
90% will be spray and pray, 5% calculated usable shots and 5% will be delivered to the client


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Apr 12, 2014 17:22 as a reply to  @ panicatnabisco's post |  #23

I shoot air shows, where I have to pan flying aircraft. If it's a propeller plane I'll shoot at slow shutter speeds to capture prop blur. Under these conditions my keeper rate may be only 10-15%. But 5% or less are those photos that are exceptionally good.


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Apr 14, 2014 20:01 |  #24

Sports action: 10%, of those, about 10% are really good.

Travel: 60%+ unless it is birds-in-flight...

Weddings: 10%

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Apr 16, 2014 19:05 |  #25

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X-wife pictures: 0%

100% for x-girlfriends ;)


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