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Apr 03, 2014 08:15 |  #1

I'm doing some wedding and bridal stuff and although I think I do a pretty good job in post, I'm curious about having a true photoshop expert retouch and edit a few images for my portfolio to really make them stand out


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Apr 03, 2014 14:54 |  #2

There are some great folks here, but I'd also suggest looking at the Retouch Pro site (retouchpro.com)!

I assume you are looking for someone you could hire? Maybe invite folks to PM you for "value added"!


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Apr 03, 2014 14:58 |  #3

You arent using professionally retouched images in your portfolio, and then doing your own thing when you deliver to the client are you? Your portfolio should be a sample of what you can deliver. .




  
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Apr 03, 2014 14:59 |  #4

Yeah, this would be for hire, only a few images would be needed. Take some of my best shots and see if someone can really take them to the next level. I do a good just with retouching my own and color correcting/brightening etc, but would like to add some more stylized images to my portfolio, kinda like what Aaron Nace does with Phlearn


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Apr 03, 2014 15:02 |  #5

jbsg02 wrote in post #16807414 (external link)
Yeah, this would be for hire, only a few images would be needed. Take some of my best shots and see if someone can really take them to the next level. I do a good just with retouching my own and color correcting/brightening etc, but would like to add some more stylized images to my portfolio, kinda like what Aaron Nace does with Phlearn

So you have no problem misleading potential clients?




  
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Apr 03, 2014 15:09 |  #6

gonzogolf wrote in post #16807428 (external link)
So you have no problem misleading potential clients?

How is providing the best quality images for a client misleading?


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Apr 03, 2014 15:10 |  #7

gonzogolf wrote in post #16807428 (external link)
So you have no problem misleading potential clients?

Am I hiring someone to come set up lights? Stage the shoot? Pose the model? Compose the shot? Check expose? Are you unaware that outsourcing post production is not uncommon? Do you have a issue hiring a make-up artist, should the photographer be responsible for that too? Hair stylist? If I find a good retoucher that I like to work with, what's keeping me from continuing a working relationship where he or she retouches images in the future.

Think of a music production, which I have a background in, many many times the recording engineer is a separate engineer than the one that mixes the song/record. Then often it's sent to someone else to do mastering. Does this mean the recording engineer who spent days and weeks tracking an album can't lay claim to his good work in the studio because a mixing engineer helped make the best of it?

If you see an issue with any of this, then I urge you to retouch all of your photos so you feel better about it and we can agree to disagree.


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Apr 03, 2014 15:15 |  #8

My point is if you arent offering those same services to the client then you are being dishonest. What you are selling, you arent delivering.




  
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Apr 03, 2014 15:17 |  #9

gonzogolf wrote in post #16807459 (external link)
My point is if you arent offering those same services to the client then you are being dishonest. What you are selling, you arent delivering.

Those services will always be at my disposal if I feel they really enhance my work. To date, I'm the only one who has retouched any of my images


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Apr 03, 2014 15:19 |  #10

gonzogolf wrote in post #16807459 (external link)
My point is if you arent offering those same services to the client then you are being dishonest. What you are selling, you arent delivering.

Wow, this is some really weird thinking.


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Apr 03, 2014 15:23 |  #11

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #16807474 (external link)
Wow, this is some really weird thinking.

How so? Your portfolio should represent what you will deliver. If he is only having professional retouching and processing done on the portfolio but not providing that same to the client then its a bait and switch. I have no problem with outsourcing processing if you are going to do it for clients.




  
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Apr 03, 2014 15:46 |  #12

I don't see a problem with working with a professional retouch "artist", but of course if you are promoting your "work" to get clients, then "Truth in Advertising" and "Full Disclosure" can play a part, possibly if you are using pics like that for promoting "your" work, you would need to have a contract with the retoucher, and then reference that contract regarding clients...?

I'm blabbering this stuff, although I myself am not involved with this type of thing...:)!


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Apr 03, 2014 15:56 |  #13

gonzogolf wrote in post #16807459 (external link)
My point is if you arent offering those same services to the client then you are being dishonest. What you are selling, you arent delivering.

jbsg02 wrote in post #16807467 (external link)
Those services will always be at my disposal if I feel they really enhance my work. To date, I'm the only one who has retouched any of my images

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #16807474 (external link)
Wow, this is some really weird thinking.

I believe the point is if your portfolio is what gets you clients, then they will be expecting that level of processing by default, not just when you decide to outsource.


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Apr 03, 2014 16:10 |  #14

joeblack2022 wrote in post #16807575 (external link)
I believe the point is if your portfolio is what gets you clients, then they will be expecting that level of processing by default, not just when you decide to outsource.

Exactly.




  
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Apr 03, 2014 17:03 |  #15

Every shoot is going to be different, not every shoot will require meticulous retouching or styling. I may find that I like my own edits more than an outsourced one, it's about delivering the best product I can, whether someone else was a part of it or not.


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