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Canon 7D + Canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS II USM

 
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Apr 05, 2014 23:28 |  #1

Hi guys!
I am just getting the hang of Canon Digital Forums as this is my first post!

I recently purchased a Canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS II USM and have to say I am not overly impressed with it. Before this lens, I had the Canon 70-200mm F4L. When shooting at F2.8, I remember before I purchased this lens, everyone was saying how amazing and sharp it is! However, when I shoot at F2.8 on my Canon 7D, the images are not sharp at all!
I have removed the filter on it, etc, and it makes no difference in the image quality. I have tried Micro adjusting, and it makes it sharper, just not as sharp as I want it!
Ive seen so many super sharp photos at F2.8 @ the 70-200 range, but I am not…

Furthermore, I find that shooting with the Image Stabiliser off makes the images sharper. The only time where the IS actually does help is when I am filming on my Canon 7D. I try shooting at night time at like 1/60, but the images have movement in them, even though my hand is incredibly still!

I also have the Canon 17-40mm F4L and the Canon 50mm F1.4, and these lenses are super sharp, and have great focus!

If anyone could please let me know what I should do, etc, that would be really appreciated!
I have no official Canon Store near me however, but I do have Camera shops. I bought this locally, so it is not a grey import.

Thank you so much guys, I really appreciate it :)




  
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Apr 06, 2014 07:06 |  #2

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Apr 06, 2014 07:11 |  #3

Joeyc214 wrote in post #16812767 (external link)
I try shooting at night time at like 1/60, but the images have movement in them, even though my hand is incredibly still!

At 1/60, there's no such thing as incredibly still hands, and although IS is a great help, it's no miracle cure.

Let's see some examples with Exif.




  
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Apr 06, 2014 09:27 as a reply to  @ Keith R's post |  #4

a few things come to mind,one u may have and rightfully expected u had to high of an expectation of this lens,i have the f4 is like u had and i do want the 2.8 and I'm sure i will get one but i am not expecting it to be any sharper or better than what i have i expect it to have better low light ability and of course i expect the is to be quieter than the f4 as its very noisy,and the second prob could be most of the pics u see with the lens prob have some pp done,a lot of people will say they didn't do any and it was sooc but prob add some pp just to make their ability or equipment look better.but please post some examples sooc at 2.8 with a good fast shutter 160 or higher and some at f4 as well.did u buy it used or new


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Apr 06, 2014 11:09 |  #5

Ouch. It burns!


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Apr 06, 2014 11:24 |  #6

I was never terribly impressed with the 70-200 f/2.8 IS II wide open on my 7D. I almost always shot at f/4 minimum unless I really needed to get that extra stop of shutter speed. Having said that, it's way better than the Mk 1.

Now, if you want to get realistic results of sharpness, slap that lens on a tripod and shoot it at 1/1000 of a second. Shooting handheld at 1/60 is a terrible way to see if your lens is sharp. The only thing you're proving is how steady your hands are.


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Apr 08, 2014 01:43 |  #7

i love the 70-200 on the 7D.


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Apr 08, 2014 04:24 |  #8

First image:
Canon 7D
Canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS II USM
Aperture F5.6 I Shutterspeed 1/100 I ISO 640

Second Image:
Canon 7D
Canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS II USM
Aperture F2.8 I Shutterspeed 1/100 I ISO 640

* Both were on tripod and were used hand held remote

Is there a way to upload the full RAW or something? No editing were done to these two uploaded images besides the compressing to 150kb from 25MB RAW.


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Apr 08, 2014 04:29 |  #9

First image:
Canon 7D
Canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS II USM
Aperture F3.2 I Shutterspeed 1/125 I ISO 640

Second Image:
Canon 7D
Canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS II USM
Aperture F5 I Shutterspeed 1/125 I ISO 160

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When I get time, I will try and shoot an image of anything at 1/1000, on a tripod, F2.8, ISO 160 and upload to see what you guys think.

Once I again, I appreciate every single on of your responses :)


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Apr 08, 2014 06:22 |  #10

These do appear rather soft however it's hard to tell why, these may simply be focus misses or poor technique, i.e. not using Single Point mode it's rather important on a 2.8 lens. Try on a tripod with manual focus.
If we can show that the optics are good may simply be a matter of micro-adjustment or taking the lens in for calibration.

Also Guy Sebastian, seriously? :lol:


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Apr 08, 2014 12:41 |  #11

Do you have a "protective" filter on the lens? If so, remove it and then shoot some test shots.


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Apr 08, 2014 13:39 |  #12

I rented a copy of this lens last month to use a wedding to use with my 7D and was absolutely blown away with how sharp it is at every focal length wide open.




  
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Apr 08, 2014 22:08 |  #13

Haha, yeah Guy Sebastian! Its the only concert I have been to since my Canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS II USM!
I shot a KISS concert last year with my Canon 70-200mm F4L lens and the images were amazing!

I ALWAYS use single point AF on my 7D, so I am constantly twiddling my fingers per shot ( Unless shooting sports, I select an AF zone for that)!

I did not use a filter for ANY of these images.

Are there any images you guys would like to see at certain shutterspeeds, apertures and ISO?
If I have time, Ill take a picture at 1/1000 ISO 160 Aperture F2.8 on a tripod, and upload it.
I will also use Manual Focus and see :)

Thank you so much everyone once again!




  
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Apr 08, 2014 22:16 |  #14

I think you need to change to faster speed in the concert photos. I think your hands was shaking

I bought 70-200 f2.8L IS II last week and the result is amazing compared to 70-200 f4L IS (just sold it)


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Apr 08, 2014 22:24 |  #15

Have you done any MA with that lens yet?


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