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Apr 15, 2014 03:16 |  #1

Hi all,

Having decided I really want to make a big go of my photography it's time to take a big step into a new body.

I can find a used 1d iv for around the same cost as a new 5d iii, so which would be recommended? I would mainly shoot.

Sports - (horses, Motorsport (bikes and cars) but also swimming, so indoors.

Landscapes also, but this isn't number 1 priority.

It would be my only camera body to begin with.

I look forward to your replies.
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Apr 15, 2014 05:33 |  #2

I shoot motorsport, often with media passes

Had 7d then got a 5d3, and then sold the 1div and bought another 5d3

even the 100-400 is good on the 5d3 :cool:




  
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Apr 15, 2014 16:04 as a reply to  @ post 16835342 |  #3

Both are great cameras. TeamSpeed summed it up well.


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Apr 15, 2014 16:56 |  #4

Thank you for the feedback.A very tough decision ahead. I feel the fact the 5Diii will come with a warranty etc gives me a little more reassurance


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Apr 15, 2014 17:09 |  #5

Hmm, a difficult choice, but only because there isn't a bad answer -- both are great cameras and I'm sure you'll love whichever you get.

I would (and did) personally get the 5D3; I think it's it's a better all-round camera; I used to own a 1-series and they are a bit of a pain to lug around; you need to buy deeper camera bags to accomodate the larger body and if you're going to walk a lot with it then size & weight can't be ignored. I carried a 1 series all over the canadian rockies a few years back and was wishing it was smaller and lighter most of the time.

There is also the attraction of having a nice new camera that hasn't been abused (though the 1-series are tough cameras to be sure).

5D batteries and small and light, and it goes for ages on a charge, so I wouldn't hold that against it.



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Apr 15, 2014 19:28 |  #6

I've thought many times about adding getting a 1DIV as a second body for the speed and crop (and just to have a 2nd body). The 5D3 vs 1DIV debate isn't a slam dunk in either direction, both are great and you can make an argument for either. Ultimately only you can decide. :)

Honestly just replying to this thread makes me want one again. :)

You can still find some 1DIV's in excellent condition with low shutter counts but they sell FAST.


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Apr 16, 2014 01:26 |  #7

I picked up a 1dIV recently and see it as a different beast compared to the 5dIII.

The 1d kills sports, especially with the 10fps and the added reach helps at times, whereas the 5d is the better landscape camera with its full frame sensor and more megapixels.

The 1d is also a more rugged camera, if your planning on really get into it sports wise then the camera is going to see its fair share of water, dust, mud etc

I want to get into landscapes and astro a bit more so I'm looking at a 6d to compliment my 1dIV. I figure the 1d will take care of the lacking AF, FPS and reach of the 6D whereas the 6d's full frame sensor and high ISO performance will work nicely for landscapes, astro and portraits.


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Apr 16, 2014 01:31 |  #8

Just to hijack this thread a bit, what if your primary use was wildlife? I bought my 5D3 for dawn / evening wildlife shooting for its high ISO ability. Is there much difference between the 2?


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Apr 16, 2014 01:55 |  #9

Honestly, I would go for the 5D III since you say the 1D IV (used) is as expensive. 1D IV's here go for $1600-$2200 for the majority of sales (and in great condition, too) while the 5D III new is around $3400 ($3000 on ebay, grey market). Everyone here has provided some great points on the advantages of one camera over the other. Unless you are going to be travelling a lot with the camera and throwing it around and using it in extreme conditions and in dusty environments etc, the 5D III is the better option imo. Just make sure the burst rate isn't going to let you down.


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Apr 16, 2014 01:58 as a reply to  @ nellyle's post |  #10

A camera like the 5D Mark III or 7D is about as large as the 1D Mark whatever, once you've added the battery grip to the former. A grip I consider necessary for shooting verticals for a longer time, with a heavy lens.


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Apr 16, 2014 01:58 |  #11

stang67 wrote in post #16837412 (external link)
Honestly, I would go for the 5D III since you say the 1D IV (used) is as expensive. 1D IV's here go for $1600-$2200 for the majority of sales (and in great condition, too) while the 5D III new is around $3400 ($3000 on ebay, grey market). Everyone here has provided some great points on the advantages of one camera over the other. Unless you are going to be travelling a lot with the camera and throwing it around and using it in extreme conditions and in dusty environments etc, the 5D III is the better option imo. Just make sure the burst rate isn't going to let you down.

Thats pretty cheap for the 1D, most I've seen here in Aus are in that range plus another $1000, usually looking at $3k for an excellent condition low shutter count.


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Apr 16, 2014 02:09 |  #12

Aus.Morgo wrote in post #16837421 (external link)
Thats pretty cheap for the 1D, most I've seen here in Aus are in that range plus another $1000, usually looking at $3k for an excellent condition low shutter count.

The highest I have even seen one go for was $2400. Seen a few at $1600-$1800. I don't see the point in spending (what some people say) $3000 for a 1DIV with ~20,000 shutter count over a 1DIV at $1600 with a ~80,000 shutter count. All of them physically looked great and were said to function perfectly and had less than 80,000 shutter count (can't remember exact numbers, but one was under 50,000). Of course I would want to meet in person to test it myself, however.


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Apr 16, 2014 02:24 |  #13

Must be the area perhaps, wish there were some for $2400 around here a few months ago.
Though I was after a like new example with low shutter count, 5000 or less. Guess some wear and higher shutter counts could go for under $2k here.


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Apr 16, 2014 06:06 |  #14

1D IV has quicker Af in servo mode, while 5DIII is more precise in one-shot mode especially in darker environment.
For indoor swimming, 1DIV is much better, especially for breastsroke and butterfly when swimmer appears suddenly. For approaching bikes, 1D IV is still better, AF of 5DIII just feels annoyingly slower. Everything alse apart from difference in AF you probably already know or can find on your own.


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Apr 16, 2014 13:57 |  #15

When I'm shooting motorsports and wildlife I almost always go with my 1DIV(or at least as the primary body), everything else the 5DIII.

They both thing have areas that one is a bit stronger than the other but they fairly close for most. The 1DIV does blow away the 5DIII in battery(even with grip and 2 batteries) and FPS.

I'm glad I have both but I think if I could only have 1 it would be the 5DIII, and that's just because I love my TS-E 24 so much and it wouldn't be wide enough on the 1DIV. I'd also probably need to get a 500/600 f4 though as my 300+TCs wouldn't be long enough for birds more often.




  
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