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Grand Canyon / Sedona trip. Need advice

 
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Apr 15, 2014 18:20 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #1

Went last year & stayed in Grand Canyon Village overnight (at the El Tovar).
Arrived late afternoon, walked along the rim, watched the sunset, got up early next day, watched sunrise, drove along the rim to various veiwpoints... then drove on to Monument Valley.
The only other thing to do would have been hiking down into the Canyon, but what we did was fine.

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Apr 15, 2014 18:30 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #2

Sounds like that's the way to go...1 day at the GC, then off to Sedona.


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Apr 15, 2014 19:16 |  #3

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If you aren't hiking, I would do one day GC (get at least one sunrise and one sunset) and two days at Sedona. One of my favorite spots at the GC is the Desert View Watchtower in the late afternoon/sunset.

This. GC is awesome but 1 day was enough for me. You might also consider either adding a day or two and visiting Page for Horseshoe bend/Antelope Canyon or subbing a day for Page. If you haven't been, Page is well worth it.


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Apr 15, 2014 20:55 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #4

Unfortunately after the day at GC we'll be headed south to Sedona. So I don't think Page is in the cards this time. That would out of the way.

Thanks all for the feedback!


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Apr 15, 2014 21:03 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #5

I agree that one day at GC is enough, generally speaking. Only reason to stay longer is to get improved chances for great sunrise/sunset shots.

At Sedona, two things are musts, IMO: 1. Hike West Fork Oak Creek Canyon; 2. Sunset at Red Rock Crossing (Cathedral Rock reflection). A Pink Jeep tour is also nice, and driving to numerous views is worthwhile. Holy Cross Chapel is worth the time.


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Apr 16, 2014 08:38 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #6

If you are not going into the canyon then one day is enough. We went last year to Sedona, and drove up for an overnight stay. The Desert View Watchtower was a great first stop. Dinner an El Tovar was great, sunset after dinner, Elk wandering thru grazing on the grass in front of the outdoor bar, a condor sitting on the rocks just over the cliff.
In Sedona I agree with Stan. First thing we did was go on a tour to get acquainted with the area. Also went to Devil's Bridge. Sunrise from the mini mesa next to Airport mesa is good. Breakfast at Java Love.


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Apr 16, 2014 08:45 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #7

If only doing the south rim, with no hiking, one day is good. I normally scout for photo locations through the afternoon to figure out where I want to be for sunset. For Sunset locations, Desert view is good (walk along the rim West of the tower to get away from the crowds, and find a nice spot to set up). Lipan Point, or Navajo Point are also good. All of those will give you a view towards the sunset, looking along the canon, with a view of part of the river. There is also a decent view of the sun hitting the cliffs behind you as the canyon turns more North. Don't pack up as soon as the sun sets. Some of the best light is after it's below the horizon. The light is a lot softer, and you get some great reds, and purples.


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Apr 16, 2014 09:08 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #8

If you like to and want to hike better plan on 2-days, if you want to just drive through, stopping at the lookouts, a day in GC would be enough.


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Apr 16, 2014 11:26 as a reply to  @ Gizmo1137's post |  #9

paul3221 wrote in post #16837881 (external link)
If only doing the south rim, with no hiking, one day is good. I normally scout for photo locations through the afternoon to figure out where I want to be for sunset. For Sunset locations, Desert view is good (walk along the rim West of the tower to get away from the crowds, and find a nice spot to set up). Lipan Point, or Navajo Point are also good. All of those will give you a view towards the sunset, looking along the canon, with a view of part of the river. There is also a decent view of the sun hitting the cliffs behind you as the canyon turns more North. Don't pack up as soon as the sun sets. Some of the best light is after it's below the horizon. The light is a lot softer, and you get some great reds, and purples.

This is great. That's exactly my plan as of now. Thanks for the location tips.
And thanks all for the helpful info.

Hotels are booked, so it's now official: 1 day for the GC (well, I may get 2 sunsets if we get there early enough on the travel day), and then 2 days in and around Sedona.


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Apr 16, 2014 12:15 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #10

Hey Dean,
I live in the Phoenix area and frequent Sedona several times a year. There seems to be never ending opportunity to shoot something new.
When are you planning on going? I agree with everyone else's sentiment that 1 day in GC should be sufficient. Just make sure you get some magic hour shots..
A few of my fav's in Sedona are Red Rock Crossing for the Iconic Cathedral Rock shots, Sunset is best for this spot.

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There are pull outs along the Red Rock Loop Rd that offer amazing views that you cannot pass up.
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Another place I really enjoy is Boynton Canyon. Lots of Red Rock! Since this is a canyon, magic hour shots are usually in shade, so its more of a good morning to mid day area, It is an easy hike into the canyon, but I always get hung up on shooting pictures and have only completed the trail once. I usually give myself a time limit on trail and turn around wherever I am and head out. The nice thing is, there are always different views on the way out.
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Make sure you do your homework before you go, looking for trails, lookouts like Airport rd.(it's pretty good for views, but lots of people for sunset)
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One last recommended trail area for pictures is the Little Horse trail head, this takes you to Chicken point and Broken Arrow trails (same area the Old Jimmy Stewart Movie "Broken Arrow" was filmed). Beautiful scenery, easy hike. Again, Morning is a good time for this hike too.

Sedona is a magical place with unlimited opportunity.

Good luck with your trip! It will be a time to remember.

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Apr 16, 2014 12:39 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #11

Shawn,

Way to go above and beyond on this reply! Thanks so much.
I had, in fact, been looking at exactly those trails (and a few others), but your comments about which ones to hit mid-morning and which ones to hit at sunset is priceless.
Plus that water reflection of the Cathedral Rock is great! I definitely would love to hit that particular spot. Hadn't realized exactly where that was until now.

So again, thanks! Great suggestions.

To answer your question, I'll be there 2 weeks from today.


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Apr 16, 2014 13:20 |  #12

Puckman wrote in post #16838418 (external link)
Shawn,

Way to go above and beyond on this reply! Thanks so much.
I had, in fact, been looking at exactly those trails (and a few others), but your comments about which ones to hit mid-morning and which ones to hit at sunset is priceless.
Plus that water reflection of the Cathedral Rock is great! I definitely would love to hit that particular spot. Hadn't realized exactly where that was until now.

So again, thanks! Great suggestions.

To answer your question, I'll be there 2 weeks from today.

Yes, Red Rock Crossing is a great place. I would pay to park in the parking area, then walk back out to the road you pulled in on, turn left and walk to the end of that road(about 1/8th mile) go down the little dirt paths to the river, that is where the reflections can be captured.

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You will need to stop at a local grocery store(cheaper) and pick up a "Red Rock Pass". This is required for parking in the trail heads and just about everywhere you go, without getting a parking ticket. There is nothing worse than driving all the way out to a trail head and realizing you don't have a pass, then having to drive back into town to purchase one. Real time waster.
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If you are interested in seeing and capturing Petroglyphs left by the Indian communities that populated the area a thousand years ago, I would recommend Honanki for Petroglyphs and also Palatki for Rock Art. These are areas that require some dirt road driving, but worth the visit.
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Have Fun, shouldn't be too hot this time of year.

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Apr 16, 2014 13:40 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #13

I was faced with the same decision and elected to visit the Grand Canyon for one night. Sedona is one of our favorite places. There are many places on the web to research hiking trails.

We did the Pink Jeep Broken Arrow Tour in Sedona. It was fabulous. The tour was incredibly fun and it offered many fantastic photo opportunities.

Sparker1 had some great recommendations on Sedona. Montezuma's castle is worth the drive.

When you drive into Sedona, especially from the north, come in via route 89. That is a great drive.




  
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Apr 16, 2014 14:05 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #14

I will be coming in via 89 from Flagstaff, and seeing if there are any good spots to stop along the way.


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Apr 16, 2014 14:27 as a reply to  @ post 16835660 |  #15

Desert View Watchtower, for a sunset can't be matched:

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