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Apr 16, 2014 15:19 |  #1

Hi guys,
I have a quick question because my time is limited for decision. I have a 70-200 2.8 ii lens and I use it everywhere. For taking much more better portraits with a wider aperture, I've bought 85L 1.2 ii just a week ago. I have faced with some focusing problems and sharpness issues at 1.2 and now the new Sigma 50mm ART is coming very soon. I've talked with the dealer that I've bought 85L 1.2 ii and he confirmed to take it back with a little less price. I can give the 85L 1.2 ii to him and take 700-800 USD more and also get Sigma 50 art when it comes. By this way, I can do portraits with 70-200 2.8 ii and Sigma 50 1.4 Art.
I have to decide until morning, either give back the 85L 1.2 ii to him or continue living with 85 1.2 ii. If you were me, what would you do?
Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art is made in 2014 and Canon 85L 1.2 made in 2006. Does it worth to pay more and stay with 85L 1.2 ii :( ? I want to give it back but on the other hand, it is called as a dream lens and I am questioning myself if I am doing something wrong? I am really confused and need a professional hand to decide :( Edit: I am on 5D Mark iii
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Apr 16, 2014 15:22 |  #2

What camera do you use? For full frame I would prefer the 85, whether its the 85L, or the sigma 85. On a crop body then the 50 is a nice portrait length. On FF the 50 is too wide for traditional portraiture because of perspective distortion.




  
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Apr 16, 2014 15:25 |  #3

gonzogolf wrote in post #16838855 (external link)
What camera do you use? For full frame I would prefer the 85, whether its the 85L, or the sigma 85. On a crop body then the 50 is a nice portrait length. On FF the 50 is too wide for traditional portraiture because of perspective distortion.

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Apr 16, 2014 15:27 |  #4

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Personally a 50 on a full frame body is a lens without a job. It's not long enough for traditional portraiture, not wide enough to do environmental work. By all accounts its a nice lens, but I dont use that focal length much.




  
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Apr 16, 2014 15:41 |  #5

I see... thnx... Need some help from 85L ii users :(




  
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Apr 16, 2014 15:47 |  #6

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I see... thnx... Need some help from 85L ii users :(

I'm told there is a learning curve with that lens. 1.2 is not for the faint of heart.




  
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Apr 16, 2014 16:22 |  #7

any other ideas on this?




  
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Apr 16, 2014 16:37 |  #8

shooting at 1.2 is difficult. Yo have to be rock solid. Perfect your technique.


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Apr 16, 2014 16:37 |  #9

ruzgar344 wrote in post #16839040 (external link)
any other ideas on this?

That weren't already discussed in the other thread? Not really. You seem to be looking for someone to tell you that the gear is the problem - it's not. You've already bought one of the premier lenses for the task at hand - feel free to throw $200 out the window because you can't nail a shot @ f/1.2, but in your position, I'd practice and learn how to use it.


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Apr 16, 2014 16:59 |  #10

WhyFi wrote in post #16839090 (external link)
That weren't already discussed in the other thread? Not really. You seem to be looking for someone to tell you that the gear is the problem - it's not. You've already bought one of the premier lenses for the task at hand - feel free to throw $200 out the window because you can't nail a shot @ f/1.2, but in your position, I'd practice and learn how to use it.

thanks a lot! So that I now decided to keep my 85L ii and force myself to learn it. I may look for some tips & techniques sheets, docs or videos maybe?




  
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Apr 16, 2014 17:35 |  #11

gonzogolf wrote in post #16838877 (external link)
Personally a 50 on a full frame body is a lens without a job. It's not long enough for traditional portraiture, not wide enough to do environmental work. By all accounts its a nice lens, but I dont use that focal length much.

the thousands of photographers who have used a 50mm to produce amazing images throughout the years would probably disagree with you.


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Apr 16, 2014 17:47 |  #12

I thought the same thing. 50mm focal length on 35mm film was the standard for decades.




  
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Apr 16, 2014 18:26 |  #13

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thanks a lot! So that I now decided to keep my 85L ii and force myself to learn it. I may look for some tips & techniques sheets, docs or videos maybe?

Sure, but reading is only going to do so much, practice is going to be your best bet. Learn how to hold your body steady, learn to brace your arms against your body, if need be, pause your breathing while releasing the shutter, don't mash down on the shutter button. It's not hard, but may take practice if you're not used to shooting with big apertures.


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Apr 16, 2014 18:39 |  #14

WhyFi wrote in post #16839349 (external link)
Sure, but reading is only going to do so much, practice is going to be your best bet. Learn how to hold your body steady, learn to brace your arms against your body, if need be, pause your breathing while releasing the shutter, don't mash down on the shutter button. It's not hard, but may take practice if you're not used to shooting with big apertures.

I appreciate! Thank you..!! Maybe I should also speak with the pro ones who owns 85l f1.2 ii to learn it's tricks too...




  
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Apr 16, 2014 19:35 |  #15

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I appreciate! Thank you..!! Maybe I should also speak with the pro ones who owns 85l f1.2 ii to learn it's tricks too...

Sure, by all means... but what tricks? I learned how to be still and how to manage DoF before I ever touched an 85L - the first time I picked one up? I was fine. It's not some peculiar dragon that needs to be tamed. It's a lens. If you understand the relationship between subject framing, aperture and DoF, shooting it at 1.2 is not very much different than shooting with another FL lens at 1.4. Just practice.


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