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Apr 17, 2014 07:32 |  #436

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absolutic, I especially like the first image in your series. Is that around Sedona

Thanks all images are from Sedona which we visited on Sunday.


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Apr 17, 2014 07:43 |  #437

So, how do you a7r users find the resolution to be on this camera? How about the dynamic range and noise at high iso? I haven't been seeing many thoughts on those topics. I see most comments about focus issues.


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Apr 17, 2014 07:52 |  #438

Resolution and IQ are top notch. Dynamic range is awesome. Noise at high ISO is pretty much on par with the 5DIII. I only manual focus so no issues whatsoever.


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Apr 17, 2014 08:19 |  #439

My main issue with a7r is colors and specifically skin colors. I get consistently comments on multiple forums that my Fuji X photos are better than my a7r photos. I can't point out to why but it has been consistent. Perhaps I have much more experience with Fuji X and my learning curve on Fuji. But I keep wondering why.


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Apr 17, 2014 08:24 |  #440

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Resolution and IQ are top notch. Dynamic range is awesome. Noise at high ISO is pretty much on par with the 5DIII. I only manual focus so no issues whatsoever.

absolutic wrote in post #16840512 (external link)
My main issue with a7r is colors and specifically skin colors. I get consistently comments on multiple forums that my Fuji X photos are better than my a7r photos. I can't point out to why but it has been consistent. Perhaps I have much more experience with Fuji X and my learning curve on Fuji. But I keep wondering why.

I assume you guys shoot raw. Can the shadows and highlights be pushed and pulled farther and your canon raw files? I assume this to be the case since we're talking about an Exmor sensor.


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Apr 17, 2014 08:25 |  #441

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I assume you guys shoot raw. Can the shadows and highlights be pushed and pulled farther and you canon raw files? I assume this to be the case since we're talking about an Exmor sensor.

Yes. I can push it all the way with no noise.


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Apr 17, 2014 08:55 |  #442

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Apr 17, 2014 09:01 |  #443

RedCatPhoto wrote in post #16840467 (external link)
Resolution and IQ are top notch. Dynamic range is awesome. Noise at high ISO is pretty much on par with the 5DIII. I only manual focus so no issues whatsoever.

I lve never shot a 5d III but the a7r is on par with at high ISO?
Are you sure?




  
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Apr 17, 2014 09:05 |  #444

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I lve never shot a 5d III but the a7r is on par with at high ISO?
Are you sure?

It is not. Its actually quite noisier than my 5D3 and it starts at ISO 800. It cleans up nice but no where near an 5D3.


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Apr 17, 2014 09:12 |  #445

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It is not. Its actually quite noisier than my 5D3 and it starts at ISO 800. It cleans up nice but no where near an 5D3.


I disagree. I've shot more than 15000 shots with 5D3, and in my experience, 5D3 if shot RAW is just as noisy. DXO Labs agree (actually their figures for noise on 5D3 are worse than Sony A7r).

The noise pattern on A7r appears at and is quite similar to Nikon D800's behavior. So if one has experience with D800, you are pretty much in the same territory with A7r.

The difference in most of the full frame cameras of the last couple years is less than half-stop in any case between the current reining low light King (Nikon DF) and Canons and Sonys. This may change with Sony A7s but who knows.


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Apr 17, 2014 09:19 |  #446

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Apr 17, 2014 09:30 |  #447

absolutic wrote in post #16840653 (external link)
I disagree. I've shot more than 15000 shots with 5D3, and in my experience, 5D3 if shot RAW is just as noisy. DXO Labs agree (actually their figures for noise on 5D3 are worse than Sony A7r).

The noise pattern on A7r appears at and is quite similar to Nikon D800's behavior. So if one has experience with D800, you are pretty much in the same territory with A7r.

The difference in most of the full frame cameras of the last couple years is less than half-stop in any case between the current reining low light King (Nikon DF) and Canons and Sonys. This may change with Sony A7s but who knows.

I agree, the noise pattern is better but there is noise at lower ISO on the A7r compare to the 5D3. I only had the camera for a 4 days or so. I need to spend more time with it.


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Apr 17, 2014 09:35 |  #448

Sure, the A7R gets more noise at high ISO, but not much more than the 5D3, the difference is not big to me.


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Apr 17, 2014 11:51 as a reply to  @ RedCatPhoto's post |  #449

The blossoms of my Indian Hawthorne bushes remind me of popcorn kernels.

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While I was shooting the blossoms, this hummer arrived at the feeder which was right next to me and close to my right ear. I never saw him...but heard him next to me. Without turning my head, I pointed the camera in his general direction and took this shot. I didn't think it was too bad for a blind shot. I did level the image in post. :D So, shooting a fast hummer using the Sony 55mm lens? No problem. ;)

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Apr 17, 2014 11:59 |  #450

absolutic wrote in post #16840653 (external link)
I disagree. I've shot more than 15000 shots with 5D3, and in my experience, 5D3 if shot RAW is just as noisy. DXO Labs agree (actually their figures for noise on 5D3 are worse than Sony A7r).

The noise pattern on A7r appears at and is quite similar to Nikon D800's behavior. So if one has experience with D800, you are pretty much in the same territory with A7r.

The difference in most of the full frame cameras of the last couple years is less than half-stop in any case between the current reining low light King (Nikon DF) and Canons and Sonys. This may change with Sony A7s but who knows.

well it's not just noise, but smearing of the A7r. The noise isnt that bad, but all the detail is gone at 1600+

at the lower iso's, the camera seems very good.


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