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Thread started 16 Apr 2014 (Wednesday) 00:27
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POLL: "Is it worth buying the 5D Original"
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Apr 17, 2014 07:37 |  #16
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CollegeKid wrote in post #16837644 (external link)
I have to agree with Berzerker on this one. I used my 5D at 1250 with no issues at all, and 1600 if I needed it. ISO 3200 was a step too far, though.

kepa wrote in post #16839936 (external link)
I didn't say that the quality above ISO 400 was not good, but it is certainly noticeably better at ISO 400 than ISO 800 (with slight pixel peeping) when printing. I said above ISO 400 was still fine for web use. I've shot at all native ISO's with the 5D, and love the film like results it gives on the higher ISOs, but I try hard to avoid it if I were printing. Since most of the time it is for web use, all native ISOs, if exposed properly, is fine.

Quite reasonable assessment. We all have different standards. I agree with you that proper exposure is an absolute necessity when using higher ISO settings. I found the 5D quite tolerable at 1600. I have no qualms about using my 6D at 25600, though I don't need to go that high often. I think there must be some voodoo going on in the 6D raw files. It is a bit odd that even at 25,600 I don't need any color noise reduction. All my crop cameras had atrocious color noise at 3200 and higher. The 6D, none. I shoot raw and use Lightroom 4.4, if that matters.

All in all, I don't miss much about the 5D. One thing I really liked that the 6D is lacking is the huge Ker-CHUNCK of a shutter sound. The 6D sounds a bit anemic, though quiet is good sometimes, too.




  
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Apr 17, 2014 08:47 |  #17

mustangmike wrote in post #16837329 (external link)
Here is a question for everyone?? Is the Original 5D worth getting as a first full frame camera along with full frame lenses??

Also, are there any big differences between the 5D Original and the Mark II?

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The only limits from a Canon 5D are those imposed by the photographer.

Time has not dimmed the camera's capabilities, and used units will be available at bargain prices.



  
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Apr 17, 2014 08:47 |  #18

I bought mine here a year ago and was happily surprise on the overall IQ. Obviously it doesn't have the fps and af speed of my 1d mk2 but with some timing I can still nail some fun action shots of my kids in sports. They are such a great deal as several can be easily found for <$500.


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Apr 17, 2014 09:15 |  #19

Best bang for the buck right now. Camera performs better than most crop sensor cameras and there's a certain look to the image that is very appealing, similar to that of film.


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Apr 17, 2014 09:25 |  #20

GregoryF wrote in post #16839991 (external link)
I can use iso 1600 with no problems and 3200 is fine if exposed properly and hit with a little noise reduction. The noise pattern on the 5d is very grain like with very little color noise that you find with crop cameras.

I agree with this. Even at 3200 the noise is not all that ugly. I am posting a shot in low light (and a bit underexposed probably) at 3200 and 2 crops to demonstrate this. The first set are unedited Jpegs. The second set has noise reduction applied and some sharpening to the same files. Obviously, people have different standards and thresholds about how much noise bothers them, so I post this so folks can see one example of the 5D's performance at 3200 for themselves.

No noise reduction.

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Apr 17, 2014 09:25 |  #21

The biggest issues with the 5D over the 5DII are. 1) the lack of the built in dust shaker. 2) The 5D doesnt have the flash control menu so that ETTL triggers like the YN622c have less options for you. (soon to be fixed by the new 622cTx). Honestly the IQ of the original 5D is close to that of the 5DII, you just have smaller files and less fudge room for cropping if you make large prints.




  
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Apr 17, 2014 09:34 |  #22

I voted no because it is only a matter of time before repairs are no longer possible, and since these are old they will need repairs sooner rather than later.


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Apr 17, 2014 14:16 |  #23
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Sirrith wrote in post #16840727 (external link)
I voted no because it is only a matter of time before repairs are no longer possible, and since these are old they will need repairs sooner rather than later.

Illogical. The 5D is a very fine body. If it works for you, buy one. I could buy three of them for the price of a 6D. Chances are one of them will still be working when the 6D needs service. If the 5D is sufficient, everything newer is overkill. Why waste the money?




  
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Apr 17, 2014 14:19 |  #24

I voted yes but in some cases a new photographer could get discouraged by the steeper learning curve involved with going full frame. Crop cameras can be a better transition for some.


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Apr 17, 2014 14:28 |  #25

Sirrith wrote in post #16840727 (external link)
I voted no because it is only a matter of time before repairs are no longer possible, and since these are old they will need repairs sooner rather than later.

The rate at which the comment "Canon no longer repairs camera X" becomes moot is when camera X costs $Y on the used market, and $Y is within 20% or so of what Canon would charge to fix camera X.

Once you can get a 5D around $350 to $450, it doesn't matter if Canon repairs them or not. You sell the body as a repair/parts camera for $100, and you buy another on the used market for the same out of pocket cost, as long as you are not a CLP member owning a host of other bodies/lenses.


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Apr 17, 2014 14:37 |  #26

GregoryF wrote in post #16839991 (external link)
I can use iso 1600 with no problems and 3200 is fine if exposed properly and hit with a little noise reduction. The noise pattern on the 5d is very grain like with very little color noise that you find with crop cameras.


i dont like keep repeating myself... but i hope you meant older crop DSLR bodies only, because your claim is no longer true.


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Apr 17, 2014 14:54 |  #27

The 5Dc is a fantastic camera. Believe it or not I still use it for my professional commercial work. I have a lot of camera bodies but always have a 5Dc with me for backup or front line if I am shooting in situations that need more low key gear.

Anyone that tells you it is not worth getting is simply compensating gear for skill. My 5Dc results are being used in national advertising work. I will continue to use it until it no longer wants to work for me.


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Apr 17, 2014 15:07 |  #28

palad1n wrote in post #16841567 (external link)
i dont like keep repeating myself... but i hope you meant older crop DSLR bodies only, because your claim is no longer true.

the EOS-M is fairly new crop body, and the 5D produces better looking images IMO. Even with the higher iso, the color rendition of the 5D is better.

If you shoot greater than 3200 for most shots, newer crops will be better, but if you shoot lower ISO, the 5D simply crushes most crop cameras.


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Apr 17, 2014 16:58 |  #29

i vote yes, still one of the best sensors for "film like" quality

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Apr 17, 2014 20:36 |  #30

My dream camera is a 5DII but I've been shooting with a T1i for so long I may just get a 5D just to go full frame and be done with it.


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