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Apr 18, 2014 02:28 |  #1

Hi everybody!

I'm rather new to sports photography but I'm a total newbie in volleyball. These pictures are from my first shoot and I have another coming up.

The gym is pretty well lit for school gym. So the conf is following:
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ISO 1600, f/5.6 and shutter speed 1/200-1/350 (depends on the sun that shines happily through windows)

I have about 1-2 meters room around the game area.

I'm looking forward to your tips and critique. I'd like my client (and myself) have a "WOOOW" reaction next day after the games.


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Apr 18, 2014 07:10 |  #2

Hmm. Never done Volleyball but have done netball. I would offer the following comments but I am no expert, so they are simply my opinions.

You are at the very lower limit of shutter speed and suggest trying to get nearer 1/500 as a minimum

Think what you are trying to capture in the photo. You seem to have gone for the jump and the pre shot pose but I suspect that the real wow will come from images that are closer to the action of actually striking the ball and capture expression on the faces. Either way I think that you need to get in a bit closer and fill the frame with action that tells the story and omit any extraneous matter. You perhaps need to be nearer 85mm or even up towards 200mm

That leads me on to say that usually it is good to get low down when doing sports action but it looks to me as if Volleyball would benefit form a higher position so that you capture the faces
Positioning yourself low down seems to capture lots of distraction background (lights etc)

As I say, these are purely my personal unqualified opinions - no doubt the experts will come along soon and provide you with more helpful insights

Keep trying


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Apr 18, 2014 07:21 |  #3

Plumtreelad wrote in post #16843174 (external link)
Hmm. Never done Volleyball but have done netball. I would offer the following comments but I am no expert, so they are simply my opinions.

You are at the very lower limit of shutter speed and suggest trying to get nearer 1/500 as a minimum

Think what you are trying to capture in the photo. You seem to have gone for the jump and the pre shot pose but I suspect that the real wow will come from images that are closer to the action of actually striking the ball and capture expression on the faces. Either way I think that you need to get in a bit closer and fill the frame with action that tells the story and omit any extraneous matter. You perhaps need to be nearer 85mm or even up towards 200mm

That leads me on to say that usually it is good to get low down when doing sports action but it looks to me as if Volleyball would benefit form a higher position so that you capture the faces
Positioning yourself low down seems to capture lots of distraction background (lights etc)

As I say, these are purely my personal unqualified opinions - no doubt the experts will come along soon and provide you with more helpful insights

Keep trying

Thanks for your comments.

When speaking of getting close, then on the ground I have only 1-2 meters next to the playground for moving and it's usually occupied by other players. So, I'm actually really close. "Too close" would be more accurate.

On picture 4 I'm more higher up and there 200mm would actually pay off. :)


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Apr 18, 2014 09:43 |  #4

These look OK. I've been a VB junkie & can tell you that playing it is a LOT easier than shooting it! ; )
I've used a 70-200 f/2.8, but prefer the 85mm f/1.8, except for the few times that I shoot from the stands.
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Apr 18, 2014 10:41 |  #5

inmybubble wrote in post #16843190 (external link)
Thanks for your comments.

When speaking of getting close, then on the ground I have only 1-2 meters next to the playground for moving and it's usually occupied by other players. So, I'm actually really close. "Too close" would be more accurate.

On picture 4 I'm more higher up and there 200mm would actually pay off. :)


By getting close I mean using a longer lens. Use the 200mm more often. I do understand the difficulties that you face with regard to limited space around the court and so getting into the stands would not be a bad idea.


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Apr 18, 2014 15:35 |  #6

You need a faster, longer lens...one with a wider aperture that will let in more light and also get you closer to the action. A faster lens will enable you to increase your shutter speed; perhaps a lens like the Canon f/1.8 85mm or the Canon f/2.0 100mm.

For the wow factor take a look at the work of Phil Zivnuska who posts in the Sports forums: https://photography-on-the.net …rch.php?searchi​d=42376573

You might also find his article on shooting volleyball helpful: How to Photograph Volleyball (external link)


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Apr 19, 2014 11:27 |  #7

I've shot my daughter's volleyball in very dark gyms... damn hard to accomplish!

I prefer to shoot up sitting on the floor, feels more dramatic.

biggest key for me is to watch the background - it makes or breaks most shots for me. Plus, to kill backgrounds I shoot as wide open as possible (which yes makes focus a big issue)... usually f2.8 or faster for me


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Apr 19, 2014 11:50 |  #8

PixelMagic wrote in post #16844427 (external link)
You might also find his article on shooting volleyball helpful: How to Photograph Volleyball (external link)

Wow, what a great article - thanks!

I'm doing many of those things too so it is good confirmation that I've learned on my own very well. </modesty>


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