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Sony a7(R): Best thing that happened to Canon users this year.

 
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Apr 21, 2014 09:59 |  #1831

my cheap OM adapter likes to leak light for long exposure so have taped around it.
same with the Novoflex M adapter, disappointing that such an expensive adapter would leak light on regular use on bright sunny days, have to use a small head band for it.

but overall, really enjoying this camera

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Apr 21, 2014 10:08 |  #1832

Beard Man wrote in post #16849461 (external link)
The best thing is NOT! happened to Canon yet :D,you wish Canon,keep waiting,may be some day,who knows :D
Canon DON'T have yet a 36 mpx sensor,Nikon have it,Sony,but NOT Canon :D :D :D

What matters really in net analysis is image quality, not megapixels. It is pixel size/pitch on sensor that matters not absolute pixel quantity. It is my view that even 20 or 24 MP sensors can offer better IQ than 36 MP cameras.




  
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Apr 21, 2014 10:11 |  #1833

khukri wrote in post #16850213 (external link)
What matters really in net analysis is image quality, not megapixels. It is pixel size/pitch on sensor that matters not absolute pixel quantity. It is my view that even 20 or 24 MP sensors can offer better IQ than 36 MP cameras.

have you shoot with the A7r, the IQ of the raw files are much cleaner are lower iso and higher iso is easier to clean. no more chromatic noise in the shadow. Absolute joy to work with in LR. I wish Canon came up with a good sensor like that.


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Apr 21, 2014 11:45 |  #1834

khukri wrote in post #16850213 (external link)
What matters really in net analysis is image quality, not megapixels. It is pixel size/pitch on sensor that matters not absolute pixel quantity. It is my view that even 20 or 24 MP sensors can offer better IQ than 36 MP cameras.

Its a huge difference in IQ between Canon 22mpx (Mark III) and Nikon 36mpx (D800E),let be honest here,PLUS Nikon lens deliver a much more sharpness and have a better resolution.
Nikon just needs to upgrade their 135mm lens,BUT even this "old" lens (135mm DF) can easily fight with "legendary" Canon 135mm.
Regarding to 24mm,35mm,85mm Nikon make a great home-run,and keep in mind this Nikon 85/1.4 has no aspherical elements, no ED glass and no VR, just great performance through traditional optics done brilliantly.


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Apr 21, 2014 12:11 |  #1835

khukri wrote in post #16850213 (external link)
What matters really in net analysis is image quality, not megapixels. It is pixel size/pitch on sensor that matters not absolute pixel quantity. It is my view that even 20 or 24 MP sensors can offer better IQ than 36 MP cameras.

You don't get worse IQ because of extra pixels. The photons don't care if they get separated into smaller slots when they hit the sensor.

What is easy to do is to fail to realize that if you zoom in 1:1 on your computer monitor, then a 36MP photo is much more enlarged than a 20MP photo. So you need a better lens to take the full advantage of a 36MP sensor than a 20MP sensor.


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Apr 21, 2014 12:37 |  #1836

Beard Man wrote in post #16850416 (external link)
Wrong! Its a huge difference in IQ between Canon 22mpx (Mark III) and Nikon 36mpx (D800E),let be honest here,PLUS Nikon lens deliver a much more sharpness and have a better resolution.
Nikon just needs to upgrade their 135mm lens,BUT even this "old" lens (135mm DF) can easily fight with "legendary" Canon 135mm.
Regarding to 24mm,35mm,85mm Nikon make a great home-run,and keep in mind this Nikon 85/1.4 has no aspherical elements, no ED glass and no VR, just great performance through traditional optics done brilliantly.

I agree with you about the IQ difference between the 5D3 and D800E (though some of the advantage is related to dynamic range rather than the MP difference). The Nikon lens statement is rather broad and unsubstantiated, but starting any post with the sentence "Wrong!" is unlikely to win you friends; if you're correct, a post comes across as a bit arrogant/aggressive, if you're incorrect, it just makes the post look really bad. It doesn't add anything positive, so why open with it?


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Apr 21, 2014 12:40 |  #1837

sploo wrote in post #16850556 (external link)
but starting any post with the sentence "Wrong!" is unlikely to win you friends

Edited. :)


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Apr 21, 2014 12:45 |  #1838

Beard Man wrote in post #16850562 (external link)
Edited. :)

*LOL* Fair play.

Being serious though: notice how much more chilled out and friendly the post reads now? To my eyes/brain anyway...


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Apr 21, 2014 12:50 |  #1839

sploo wrote in post #16850571 (external link)
*LOL* Fair play.

Being serious though: notice how much more chilled out and friendly the post reads now? To my eyes/brain anyway...

Anyway,show me a Canon Lens which is sharper than Nikon.
Prime,Zoom,Telephoto,S​uper-Telephoto....


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Apr 21, 2014 13:08 |  #1840

Beard Man wrote in post #16850589 (external link)
Anyway,show me a Canon Lens which is sharper than Nikon.
Prime,Zoom,Telephoto,S​uper-Telephoto....

24-70mk2
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400F2.8
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Apr 21, 2014 13:18 |  #1841

Beard Man wrote in post #16850589 (external link)
Anyway,show me a Canon Lens which is sharper than Nikon.
Prime,Zoom,Telephoto,S​uper-Telephoto....

ask all those professional shooters at sports events and concerts as well as red carpets, more white lenses than black noinks


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Apr 21, 2014 13:29 |  #1842

Charlie wrote in post #16850633 (external link)
24-70mk2
70-200mk2
17TSE
135L
24-105L
85L
300F2.8
200F2
400F2.8
500F4
600F4
800F5.6

All these lenses is sharper than Nikon?


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Apr 21, 2014 13:49 |  #1843

don't feed the troll


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Apr 21, 2014 13:50 |  #1844
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tonyniev wrote in post #16850652 (external link)
ask all those professional shooters at sports events and concerts as well as red carpets, more white lenses than black noinks

Being popular versus being better are two different things.




  
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Apr 21, 2014 14:38 |  #1845

Hogloff wrote in post #16850735 (external link)
Being popular versus being better are two different things.

I'm not a pro but even I prefer the lens that's most popular...which is why all those white lenses are at sports events I'm sure. :D


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