Leica Lovers Anonymous

edge100 wrote in post #16844304
I've actually gone the other way; I shoot a LOT of 35mm slides these days; much more than colour neg. I bought 100 rolls (mostly 35mm Provia 100F, but also some 120 Provia and 35mm Velvia, Sensia, and 64T Ektachrome). Cost me ~$2.50/roll. Developing myself runs ~$3/roll.

Once I burn through this, I'll probably cease shooting 35mm slides. But as noted, 120 slides are just too gorgeous to miss.

I keep wanting to try that c41 field kit you use, but I feel it would spread me too thin across different mediums. So it's tx400 for now.

I can't shoot color properly at all, to say nothing about shooting color film properly.

taemo wrote in post #16844028
^I'm personally finding not worth it to shoot E-6 on 35mm anymore.
I tend to go for C-41 now, Portra 400 and Gold 200 specifically as they produce excellent color scans from 35mm cameras for half the developing cost of E-6.
I just finished scanning my last 35mm Velvia 50 and Provia 100s and I have no plans on restocking, still have 2 400X but I'm just freezing it for now.

I'll keep shooting E-6 in 120 though as looking at a 6x6 or 6x9 slide is just amazing.

I'm just going to try a roll or two of E-6 for now. Since I started shooting film again, I have only shot B&W, and while I'm going to try a few different colour films in the next few weeks, I expect that unless I get a 120 or 4x5 camera, I'll mostly stay with B&W.

SWEET Michael....

My MP:

Edge great camera and I really like the guy in the shaft of light....

Now if Leica would just put that new CMOSIS sensor in that body with no automation at all I would be all over that....

edge100 wrote in post #16852684
My MP:

Part of my 'non-review' of the camera:

http://mfphotography.c​a …1/the-leica-mp-non-review

awesome read!

As someone that owns an M3 and M6 and have thought about the MP in the past, your points are spot on regarding the pros and cons of each camera, the MP is the perfect child of the M3 and M6.
I also enjoy rewinding with the knob more than the crank and from what I've read it's also more reliable and durable.
The older advance lever feels more solid than the one on the M6 which at times feels like you'll break next time you advance it.
One thing different I like though is that I like my Ms to be meterless, not having a flashing arrow or dot distracting me from my photography which is why I don't have batteries on the M6 and use a light meter

That is a sweet setup, Edge!

So, is everyone ready for the new Leica T (Type 701) camera coming on Thursday (April 24, 2014)? One thing we know is that an M lens adapter will be on offer... Seems that other adapters will likely follow from third parties, making this a possibly fun camera for "alternative" shooting. It's a 16MP APS-C sensor rather than full frame, however.

Double Negative wrote in post #16853774
That is a sweet setup, Edge!

So, is everyone ready for the new Leica T (Type 701) camera coming on Thursday (April 24, 2014)? One thing we know is that an M lens adapter will be on offer... Seems that other adapters will likely follow from third parties, making this a possibly fun camera for "alternative" shooting. It's a 16MP APS-C sensor rather than full frame, however.

For 3 grand with no rangefinder... an aps-c camera would be quite a stretch 10 years ago.

If it's not panasonic, then it's a sony sensor.

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #16853822
For 3 grand with no rangefinder... an aps-c camera would be quite a stretch 10 years ago.

If it's not panasonic, then it's a sony sensor.

Yeah, it's a pretty far reach, especially for the price. Ironic, considering the other technical/modern aspects of it. The sensor *might* actually come from CMOSIS (the Belgian company). A Panasonic it's definitely not... There's another big Japanese player involved though (I can't say who).

Post updated with pictures and specs of the two new lenses... The M adapter will support 6-bit coding.

Double Negative wrote in post #16854993
Post updated with pictures and specs of the two new lenses... The M adapter will support 6-bit coding.

Well, this appears to be a slight improvement on the X-Vario abomination, but only a slight improvement.

No EVF is a deal-breaker for me (even if I were interested in a digital Leica). $3K is also VERY steep for an APS-C camera, given the current best-in-class APS-C cameras are less than half that price (I'm thinking Fuji X-T1), and even FF mirrorless is available for less. No doubt, the build quality will be better than either the Fuji or the Sony, and if this handles M-mount glass without smearing, then it has that over the other cameras. But it's still $3k to get in.

Leica is a complex company. Their M and S-series cameras exist in a niche that no one else has filled; the M is the only FF rangefinder, and has a 60 year evolution backing it up, while the S is a small, very high quality MF camera, which competes favourably with much larger camera systems.

On the other hand, I just don't get Leica's compact cameras, X-Vario, and this new T-series. There are other, cheaper options that do the same thing just as well; that cannot be said for the S and (particularly) the M cameras, thus justifying their price.

^ Exactly.

It certainly is more compact and versatile than the X cameras (especially the X Vario). Being able to use M lenses is a nice plus, should you want "a backup camera." With it groking the 6-bit coding it should feature in-camera corrections and shoot the M lenses very well.

There is an EVF; it's optional (if you don't want to use the LCD). It's the new Visoflex EVF w/GPS. But yeah, it's an add-on and bulks up the camera.

But yes... It comes down to the cost and sensor. No doubt. Especially when the Sony, Fuji and Olympus options are so much cheaper, full frame, more featured...

Leica is trying to be relevent and compete. Other than the M and S lines, it's a lost cause and they should focus on those. All these other cameras are uphill battles (and losing propositions) because they simply cannot compete in these sectors. In the end, it's all about Leica too narrowly focusing on the "luxury" market.