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Apr 24, 2014 02:26 |  #1

I want Canon or someone to release a well performing 50mm that is reasonable sharp wide open and reasonable expensive.

What I really want is Canon to release a new 50mm in class with their updated 35mm f/2 (the IS USM version) which seems to be a great lens for a reasonable price.

Canon f/1.8: Cheap as hell, but bad focus and bad bokeh
Canon f/1.4: Seems to be useless wide open and soft up to f/2 orso.
Canon f/1.2: Too expensive for me


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Apr 24, 2014 02:32 |  #2

The new Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art is supposed to be one of the best 50's on the market, and it's at a bargain price of around $900. You need to either give up your search for a great 50mm or dig deeper in your pockets.


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Apr 24, 2014 02:34 |  #3

Staszek wrote in post #16857319 (external link)
The new Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art is supposed to be one of the best 50's on the market, and it's at a bargain price of around $900. You need to either give up your search for a great 50mm or dig deeper in your pockets.

That thing is too hugeee. Also $900 is still more than i want to spend on a prime 50mm since I have a crop and it will only be somewhat useable to me.


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Apr 24, 2014 02:47 |  #4

Hermelin wrote in post #16857313 (external link)
Canon f/1.4: Seems to be useless wide open and soft up to f/2 orso.

My 50mil 1.4 is sharp as F*ck, even wide open


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Apr 24, 2014 03:03 |  #5

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My 50mil 1.4 is sharp as F*ck, even wide open

Really? On your 5D or 60D or both? Do you have some samples?


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Apr 24, 2014 03:21 |  #6

I agree, a 50mm 1.4 along the lines of the 35mm f2 is would be great and might head off Sigma's new 1.4 for Canon users.


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Apr 24, 2014 03:26 |  #7

I definitely agree! I have the old Sigma 50mm f1.4 and although the IQ is great, it's focus can be a huge issue. A few reviews have already stated the Sigma 50 art has AF inconsistencies so I definitely wouldn't upgrade, I plan to wait as well till Canon upgrade their 50 1.4

I have the 35mm f2 IS and I absolutely LOVE it. Before the Sigma 50 was my carry around lens on my 6D which was great but focus was an issue quite often. After getting the 35 it makes me really appreciate accurate AF that Canon lenses can give.

Canon has many lenses though that could do with an upgrade but considering how crazy people go over a new 50, that's where their focus should be!


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Apr 24, 2014 04:08 |  #8

I think a Canon 50mm f/1.8 with:
- 9 rounded aperture blades
- with a build on pair with the f/1.4
for $160 could be nice.

Note:
The Canon f/1.4 has 8-blade aperture so is unlikely that could happen, but even 8 could be an improvement.




  
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Apr 24, 2014 04:09 |  #9

Hermelin wrote in post #16857344 (external link)
Really? On your 5D or 60D or both? Do you have some samples?

On the 5D. I don't use my 60D much.. Don't have any samples at hand..


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Apr 24, 2014 04:29 |  #10

And don't forget about the 50 1.4 poor design where either the af gearing breaks or the focusing track deflects and stops af from working. Another reason the 50 needs redesigned...


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Apr 24, 2014 04:34 |  #11

Nick_Reading.UK wrote in post #16857326 (external link)
My 50mil 1.4 is sharp as F*ck, even wide open

Nick - you must be the guy that got the good one ;). I've never seen a Canon 50 f/1.4 that was decent until well past f/2.0.

In fact, the f/1.8 and f/1.2L aren't exactly stellar until stopped down either - hence the excitement over the new Sigma 50 Art.


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Apr 24, 2014 04:43 |  #12

I definitely expect a 50mm f/2 IS going for about $600 to be released.
It would make sense in line with the 24, 28 and 35mm offerings that Canon has introduced in the last couple of years.


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Apr 24, 2014 05:56 |  #13

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Nick - you must be the guy that got the good one ;). I've never seen a Canon 50 f/1.4 that was decent until well past f/2.0.

In fact, the f/1.8 and f/1.2L aren't exactly stellar until stopped down either - hence the excitement over the new Sigma 50 Art.

My 50L is on par in terms of sharpness with my 24L II and 35L. It's leaps and bounds sharper wide open than the f/1.4 is. I've owned both and there's no comparison. It's not as consistent as those two lenses but I'd say it's very similar in AF consistency to the 85L II which I have also owned.

I also never had a problem with my f/1.4's AF failing, mainly because I used a lens hood at all times.


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Apr 24, 2014 06:29 |  #14

Staszek wrote in post #16857475 (external link)
My 50L is on par in terms of sharpness with my 24L II and 35L. It's leaps and bounds sharper wide open than the f/1.4 is. I've owned both and there's no comparison. It's not as consistent as those two lenses but I'd say it's very similar in AF consistency to the 85L II which I have also owned.

I also never had a problem with my f/1.4's AF failing, mainly because I used a lens hood at all times.

Good point, if you want your 50 1.4 to last a really long time, a hood attached forward facing all the time is a good way to protect it, even if nothing but a cheap ebay hood. A $10 hood is much cheaper than to have to fix the AF 2 years down the road.


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Apr 24, 2014 07:14 |  #15

Dlee13 wrote in post #16857357 (external link)
A few reviews have already stated the Sigma 50 art has AF inconsistencies so I definitely wouldn't upgrade, I plan to wait as well till Canon upgrade their 50 1.4.

I have seen some of those reviews mentioning AF inconsistencies. One very extensive review, where inconsistencies were observed, summarizes the lens with the following comment:

The market is full of 50-something mm lenses as seen listed in the comparison tables above, but there are significant drawbacks to all of them with wide open image quality being the primary issue. As long as the price is not objectionable, the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art Lens is my strong recommendation over all of them with possible exception for the last 50mm lens to hit the streets with great acclaim, the instantly-legendary Zeiss Otus 55mm f/1.4 Distagon Lens.

My own experience with the Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 lens was very positive. I purchased the lens at a local "store" event that was attended by a Sigma representative. My PC at the time was running Windows XP which is incompatible with the dock software. The Sigma rep took my purchase and 60D body and on the spot tweaked the combination for me. It took about 20 minutes and therein may be part of the issue with dock compatible lenses. It definitely take some patience and I think some people all too often give up and then blame the lens as inconsistent.




  
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