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Sharing screen calibrator . . . . Am I wrong.

 
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Apr 27, 2014 11:34 |  #1

Hi folks,
I have a quick question for you all. I have just had an argument with a fellow tog in my area. He is offering to calibrate other peoples monitors for them if they take their monitors to him. He is selling this as a sort of service.

My argument was that this is not a true calibration service. If the person does not have the calibration software on the computer attached to the monitor then his calibration means nothing.

I am of course simplifying the argument as I won't go into the things that I pointed out to him. I could be wrong but this just smacks of taking advantage of people who have no idea of the colour/ screen calibration world.

Am I wrong.

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Apr 27, 2014 11:37 |  #2

When you calibrate a monitor you create a profile. Once created, the software and device need not be present on the computer. The profile should be placed in the folder with all of the other monitor profiles.




  
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Apr 27, 2014 14:29 as a reply to  @ chrisa's post |  #3

Yes Chrisa, you are correct and this was on the list that I discussed with him. The whole thing stinks to me tho I suppose as an entry or first exposure to screen calibration, it could be useful to some but I think that people should just buy their own especially as they are not that expensive now. From my experience in showing some hobbyists how to calibrate it came across as rocket science to them. Try explaining to some where a profile would live on the computer and it's met with complete blank and lost expressions.

They also ask questions about how often should it be done and as some read up on it first they also query the idea of ambient adjustment, which as I have just informed one of his customers queries, will not happen if they do not have the device attached.

It's not sour grapes on my part I just don't like the fact that it's making a quick buck off the unwary and not totally informing them.


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Apr 27, 2014 14:40 |  #4

Your spot on when you boot your PC/MAC it has to load a color profile that is saved locally. The monitor does not save any color calibration data internally so having someone calibrate a monitor on different PC accomplishes exactly nothing from a color calibration standpoint.


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Apr 27, 2014 15:12 |  #5

I used to calibrate customers monitors onsite when I worked for a commercial printing company. We offered it as a service to avoid some of the "Well it didn't look like that on our monitor" claims from unhappy and uneducated customers.




  
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Apr 27, 2014 18:38 |  #6

Licensing for multiple machines?


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Apr 28, 2014 03:19 as a reply to  @ windpig's post |  #7

Chrisa, you were doing it as an established commercial biz that I imagine had all the proper licences and insurances in place which is different from this fly by night idea and you obviously know what you are doing.

He has now taken some things onboard after another photographer pitched in.

He has now realised that he can't do it by people bringing their monitor to him as he doesn't know how to supply the profile to them . It was also suggested that he would maybe need to adjust his insurance (if he has any) for potential damage to their equipment.

The idea now is that the service will be on laptops only. I take it that this is so the software can be installed on the laptop, which in itself brings up the above mentioned software licence abuse . . . . This has been pointed out but seems to be blatantly ignored.


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Apr 28, 2014 07:31 |  #8

Yes, we had a multiple site license. I assumed that this person that you are talking about was supplying the profile and instructing the client where to place it and how to activate it. If not, he doesn't really have a clue.




  
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Apr 29, 2014 00:36 as a reply to  @ chrisa's post |  #9

No he doesn't have a clue and that is one of the things that annoys me. I've now washed my hands with him and will no longer offer any advice as he doesn't take any of it in good faith that you are trying to genuinely help and point out the pitfalls of his ideas.

It's the people who will go to him for any advice/service that I feel for as it will only lead to possibly more people like him portraying themselves as pro togs.

Anyway I'm done with him now.


Cheers for all the comments folks.


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May 01, 2014 22:31 |  #10

Does the graphics card used affect the rendered colors at all? If you calibrate on one CPU, and then move the monitor to another CPU/Grafx card, is the calibration still the same?


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