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Apr 27, 2014 13:12 |  #1726

it will always be a loss... why?

normally, at the end of a 2 year period, you keep the phone. with AT&T next, you will always return the phone and get a new one.

Think of it like leasing a car as opposed to buying one. sure you may pay a little "less" when you lease a car, but at the end, you give it back, giving you $0 in 'value' of ownership, whereas if you buy, you own it, you have a cost value to the product.

It is a very, very clever rip off by the mobile phone companies...


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Apr 27, 2014 13:19 |  #1727

I've been on Tmobile for over 12 years. Moved from my family's plan to my own.
Always upgrade to a new phone annually.

Don't do the Next program. Just do the aftermarket insurance program they offer. Which is usually really really good. I tend to sell my 1 year old phone on CL and upgrade to the next model for very minimal loss.

I just sold my Ipad Retina on CL and picked up a Ipad Air with free Tmobile data 1.2 GB LTE free.




  
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Apr 27, 2014 14:22 |  #1728

Harm wrote in post #16865034 (external link)
it will always be a loss... why?

normally, at the end of a 2 year period, you keep the phone. with AT&T next, you will always return the phone and get a new one.

Think of it like leasing a car as opposed to buying one. sure you may pay a little "less" when you lease a car, but at the end, you give it back, giving you $0 in 'value' of ownership, whereas if you buy, you own it, you have a cost value to the product.

It is a very, very clever rip off by the mobile phone companies...

You only need to trade the phone in if you want to upgrade early. If you make the payments for the 20 or 26 months depending on your plan, the phone is yours. It is actually not a bad deal now that they have changed their rate plans as it gives you a new phone without the upfront costs as Bernie has spelled out.


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Apr 27, 2014 16:09 |  #1729

I can see the confusion. I'll use real numbers so people can see what happened.

Last month, my bill for three lines was $228.xx. At the beginning of this month, I switched to the new family plan - $100/mo for data, $40 per line, but because my plan was more than 18 months into it, we basically get a $25 per line credit, so it's $15 per line (as advertised). On top of that, I get a 24% discount, so my bill dropped about $60 (insurance for each phone is some of that $40 difference that isn't apparent, as my bill is $110.xx + insurance x3 and telenav (which I can probably get rid of), but also fees/taxes).

If I were to get a new phone (Unless I purchase it out of pocket and activate it), I would lose my $25 a month credit (my line would be $40 instead of $15 base). AT&T Next, however, does not remove that $25 credit. So for the cost of adding a new phone anyway (without the upfront cost), I'm paying $29 a month more than I was after the price dropped, which is a net increase of $4 if I were to get a new phone with a two year contract, except I paid zero down.

Yes, if I want to trade up at 12 months, I have to trade in my current phone, but I'm not paying activation or the cost of the new phone, and if I like my phone and keep it for 20 months, then it's mine to keep.


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Apr 27, 2014 19:44 |  #1730

Down_Shift wrote in post #16864042 (external link)
+1 confused...

On another note.. anyone upgrade their 24-70 to the V2? There's some left in stock on Canon Refurb on sale.. wondering if it's worth upgrading.. The v1 and v2 70-200 wasn't spectacular IMO but then again I went through 2 copies to get a good v1.


Wish the 85L was in stock..

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Apr 27, 2014 23:37 |  #1731

jcpoulin wrote in post #16865781 (external link)
I have the V2 version…love it. I had 3 copies of the version one over time…….loved my 24-105 much better. Then splurged for the V2…..MUCH better then V1!! Super sharp, accurate focusing. For me, night and day difference. Costly though!

i'll have to think about it and hopefully it's still in stock at canon refurb.

It was going for under $1600. If I can sell my V1, i'll eat the ~$600 if it's a big difference.




  
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Apr 28, 2014 18:36 as a reply to  @ Down_Shift's post |  #1732

question for anyone who can give me some tips...

im shooting with a t3i, 190x manfrotto tripod, 70-200f4, 50 1.8 and 18-55 kit lens. i've got a 430exII and im going to grab a soft box this week for it.

i've got a friend who wants me to take her picture. she wants something like this.

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net …b801ece87979d&o​e=53607AE0 (external link)

how can i achieve that with what i have? can i use the flash to fill the backside of the model? am i to assume a reflector was used in that photo? any tips on how i can recreate that image? thanks in advance.




  
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Apr 28, 2014 19:19 |  #1733

I'm bad at correctly guessing how photos are lit. I thought that was all natural night.


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Apr 29, 2014 07:31 |  #1734

Wonder if Scott is down shooting the aftermath of those tornadoes...


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Apr 29, 2014 07:32 |  #1735

That photo looks like a bright, sunny day, exposed for the lower half - hence the sky looks whitish as opposed to blue.

a softbox for flashfill in the front too...


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Apr 29, 2014 08:30 |  #1736

Yeah, it's strongly (and apparently naturally) backlit, I'm thinking single light source in the front, likely in a softbox as Harm laid out. At first I thought it could be two lights, but the second photo makes me think otherwise (given that her face appears to be slightly shadowy, as if her hair is blocking the source on the left).


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Apr 29, 2014 09:40 |  #1737

t3ichef wrote in post #16868105 (external link)
question for anyone who can give me some tips...

im shooting with a t3i, 190x manfrotto tripod, 70-200f4, 50 1.8 and 18-55 kit lens. i've got a 430exII and im going to grab a soft box this week for it.

i've got a friend who wants me to take her picture. she wants something like this.

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net …b801ece87979d&o​e=53607AE0 (external link)

how can i achieve that with what i have? can i use the flash to fill the backside of the model? am i to assume a reflector was used in that photo? any tips on how i can recreate that image? thanks in advance.

If you've never shot portraits in the rising/setting sun before, give yourself plenty of time because all of the lighting changes very quickly and you'll have to make adjustments accordingly. Dont wait until the sun is exactly where you want it - shoot a bunch before it's where you want it to get a feel for where things need to be. Depending upon your angle to the sun, you might have to jack up the power on the flash and bring in the softbox pretty close. A reflector is a cheap, versatile option, but it can often get tricky trying to get the angles correct when the sun is going down. Do you have anything to control the power level of the flash like an phottix or such?


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Apr 29, 2014 10:29 |  #1738

Harm wrote in post #16869221 (external link)
Wonder if Scott is down shooting the aftermath of those tornadoes...

Nope. Too much happening here


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Apr 29, 2014 10:32 |  #1739

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Nope. Too much happening here

there is?


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Apr 29, 2014 10:50 |  #1740

i'm gonna call softbox but most likely a reflector on that pic. Given the sky is blown out, they probably metered a bit toward brighter also. sky would've probably been fine if he had a good light




  
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