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Well crap I did it.... bye bye 6D... hello 5D3!

 
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Apr 29, 2014 21:46 |  #406

gabebalazs wrote in post #16871305 (external link)
I've had the 5D3 in my hands for a few hours now. I'm not sure if I like the joystick (note: I had a 7D for 4 years so I'm quite familiar with it...)
Grabbed my 6D and my thumb was much better at handling the d-pad :)

no doubt in my mind, the joystick is considerably better. The mere fact that it jumps to center on a single click, makes it a winner by default. It also does 9 point mapped, and 9 zones are easier to work with than clunky 11 points.


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Apr 29, 2014 21:52 |  #407

Maybe, provided that the joystick works as designed. Mine works fine left and right (= when you feel the soft "click" the joystick engages, AF point changes etc.) But up and down more force is needed on mine, especially up. The feel of a soft click is not enough you have to press a bit more to actually make it do its job. Very annoying and my thumb is already red and hurts. :(


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Apr 29, 2014 22:30 |  #408

It certainly sounds like thumb-thing isn't right... :)


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Apr 30, 2014 02:02 |  #409

Talley wrote in post #16760382 (external link)
I"ve had my 6D now for 10 1/2 months. Coming from a 7D for over a year and a 60D for a year before that and a non cross type outer focus point T3i before that.

Write to CANON Marketing Division. They should feature you in advertising and give you a new 5Diii for free because you have updated your CANON camera every year for 4 years. Now that's the brand loyalty they want!




  
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Apr 30, 2014 05:04 |  #410

Scrumhalf wrote in post #16871029 (external link)
I like the joystick on my 7D but don't mind the wheel on the 6D. Not a make or break feature as far as I am concerned.

I don't find the joystick a major deal... it's not really essential on the 6D given there are so few AF points to control.

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Write to CANON Marketing Division. They should feature you in advertising and give you a new 5Diii for free because you have updated your CANON camera every year for 4 years. Now that's the brand loyalty they want!

But they only release their good bodies every 4 years!


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May 01, 2014 05:39 |  #411

I have been noticing the 5D Mark III does have noticeably different colour rendering to the 6D, and I think the 5D3 has better colours. This comparison by dpreview seems to capture the difference well.

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May 01, 2014 06:08 as a reply to  @ Mornnb's post |  #412

Did they use the same lens when doing the tests?


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May 01, 2014 07:25 |  #413

For the Canon bodies they use the 85mm 1.8. The Nikon is with a 85mm 1.8G. The Leica is with a Summarit-M 75mm 2.5.

It actually well reflects what I was noticing in real world shooting, I've been thinking since first getting the 5D 'wow, this doesn't make sense but the colours seem to be amazing and richer than the 6D'

Also a note of interest, with the Leica is that it's an M9, which uses a CCD sensor. CCD has a reputation for richer colours than CMOS.


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May 01, 2014 11:53 as a reply to  @ Mornnb's post |  #414

Looking at the pictures, it seems that the reds are more saturated in the 5DIII images. Honestly, I'd be inclined to believe that that's the due to the way the PP processes the RAW files. You can make your own camera profile and crank up the saturation on the 6D and probably achieve the same effect.




  
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May 01, 2014 12:52 |  #415

st3mpy wrote in post #16875030 (external link)
Looking at the pictures, it seems that the reds are more saturated in the 5DIII images. Honestly, I'd be inclined to believe that that's the due to the way the PP processes the RAW files. You can make your own camera profile and crank up the saturation on the 6D and probably achieve the same effect.

The DPReview photo comparisons are based on RAW rendered into photos with the ACR.

So, it's however well each camera fares with ACR algorithms. It's the first stab at PP (the voltage conversion to photo) ACR style.


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May 01, 2014 13:53 |  #416

I'm still bemused why the 6D has a different sensor to the 5D3. I know there are differences, for example the above comments on colour rendition and the generally recognised fact that the 6D is slightly better on high ISO noise but I still can't believe Canon produced a whole new sensor when they'd not long introduced a new one for the 5D3. Considering how much use they've got out of the venerable 18MP APS-C sensor that debuted in the 7D, it seems they're doing the exact opposite with the FF ones.


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May 01, 2014 15:52 |  #417

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I'm still bemused why the 6D has a different sensor to the 5D3. I know there are differences, for example the above comments on colour rendition and the generally recognised fact that the 6D is slightly better on high ISO noise but I still can't believe Canon produced a whole new sensor when they'd not long introduced a new one for the 5D3. Considering how much use they've got out of the venerable 18MP APS-C sensor that debuted in the 7D, it seems they're doing the exact opposite with the FF ones.

Let's say like this: I think Canon is quite busy right now working on sensors. And will continue to be quite busy until they have a sensor with really great DR.


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May 01, 2014 16:17 |  #418

Vertigo1 wrote in post #16875253 (external link)
I'm still bemused why the 6D has a different sensor to the 5D3. I know there are differences, for example the above comments on colour rendition and the generally recognised fact that the 6D is slightly better on high ISO noise but I still can't believe Canon produced a whole new sensor when they'd not long introduced a new one for the 5D3. Considering how much use they've got out of the venerable 18MP APS-C sensor that debuted in the 7D, it seems they're doing the exact opposite with the FF ones.

It was R&D and real world testing. They threw out something new and tested waters to see how the public reacted.

They specifically said they were looking at better IQ at the pixel level and they succeeded.

It's just another step to something better.


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May 02, 2014 06:58 |  #419

Shot with my 5DIII for the first time in the "real world" yesterday (a friend's civil wedding, shots in a park, and dinner).
I'm happy with the results. I was mostly using a 24-105L and later my Tamron 24-70 2.8 VC. I also used my Sigma 70-200 2.8 OS, and Canon 50 1.4 for a few photos. It worked well with all those lenses. I selected cross-type points only in the AF menu.
I also had my 6D with me with a 85 1.8 on it.
I probably had too much gear for the occasion but the photos came out well :)

I was using only SD cards... When I sold my 7D, I also sold all my CF cards, now I regret that. They are so expensive. There is a good deal on the 32GB Transcend cards (around $30) but there are quite a few reviews about corrupted cards. I did own one of these (16GB) and never gave me a problem, but I'm not sure if I should buy them again. There are some decent Sandisk and Lexar 32GB cards starting at around $65-75 on Amazon, but I'm not sure what I should buy. I am very heavily invested in SD cards (I have over 300GB in fast cards), so for now I'm just using SDs until I need dual cards and/or speed.


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May 02, 2014 12:21 |  #420

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I'm actually waiting for some people to start posting about how not using the dual card slots of the 5D3 (or any camera with dual slots) is such a huge sin especially for a wedding...lol

On a more serious note: I own a 6D but I've also used a 7D and a 5D3 for a few weddings and shoots...gotta admit, the joystick does come in handy but I didn't really miss it on the 6D. The d-pad worked just fine. IQ-wise, I'm not really that demanding so I prolly won't notice the IQ difference for my shooting but I did really enjoy the responsiveness of the 5D3. Price-wise, the difference was too big for me to swallow and I would've ended up with a camera without any lens if I went with the 5D3.


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